Sep 11, 2023 School Board

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OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. WE'LL CALL THIS SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CARROLL ISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO ORDER ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2023 AT 5:00PM.

[2. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

WE WILL NOW ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

551.071, 551.072, 551.074 AND 551.0821 AT 5:01 P.M.. ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING. WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER AT 6:00 PM.

[3. PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE / MOMENT OF SILENCE]

A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

I'VE ASKED TRUSTEE DUDLEY, LEAD US TODAY BEFORE WE RISE, I HAVE A STATEMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO READ ON THE REMEMBRANCE OF THIS SIGNIFICANT DAY. ON THIS DAY 22 YEARS AGO, WE REMEMBER THE TRAGIC EVENTS OF SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001.

WE HONOR THE LIVES LOST AND THE HEROES THAT AROSE.

LET US NEVER FORGET THE UNITY, RESILIENCE AND COMPASSION THAT CAME FROM THAT DAY, REMINDING US TO STAND TOGETHER IN THE FACE OF ADVERSITY.

WE WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER.

NOW, WILL YOU PLEASE RISE? THANK YOU.

TRUSTEE DUDLEY, OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

ALL RIGHT. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, MISS YELTON.

[5. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ANY MATTERS ADDRESSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION]

SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX INFORMATION.

[6. INFORMATION]

I THINK MISS PEDDY IS GOING TO START US OFF.

YES, I AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT.

WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO BRING THIS PROPOSAL TO YOU.

AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME OUTSTANDING CTE PROGRAMS IN CARROLL ISD.

WE'VE GOT AN OUTSTANDING CMA PROGRAM.

WE'VE GOT AN OUTSTANDING STEAM/STEM PROGRAM.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO GROW OUR BUSINESS ACADEMY, BUT IT'S BEEN A SLOW PROCESS AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DO WE WANT? WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE? HOW DO WE WANT IT TO? HOW DO WE WANT IT TO BE ABLE TO GET THE MOST KIDS INTO IT? WE CURRENTLY HAVE A LOT OF KIDS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THE BUSINESS PROGRAM, BUT THEY'RE GOING THE CMA ROUTE.

SO WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT SOME CURRICULUM AND HOW CAN WE BRING CURRICULUM TO OUR BUSINESS PROGRAM THAT WILL BE EXCITING FOR OUR KIDS, WHO WILL MAKE THEM, WHO WILL WANT TO BECOME ENTREPRENEURS? WE HAVE A LOT OF STUDENTS WHO ARE ALREADY DOING THIS ON THEIR OWN, SO WE ARE THRILLED ABOUT THIS POSSIBILITY.

WE DID HAVE A GROUP COME TO US AND THEY THEY BROUGHT THE PROPOSAL OF THE CARROLL BUSINESS ACADEMY TO US TO REVIEW.

WE ARE STILL IN THE EARLY, EARLY STAGES OF THIS.

WE ARE STILL EXPLORING OPTIONS AND HOW THIS IS GOING TO LOOK AND HOW WILL IT BEST FIT THE PROGRAMS FOR OUR STUDENTS BUT WE WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOU TONIGHT SO THAT YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS.

IT IS IN IN DIRECT ALIGNMENT WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN WAS TO GROW OUR ACADEMIES, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE ACADEMIES THAT WE ARE BRINGING FORTH SO THAT WHEN WE BRING YOU THE ACADEMIC PLANNING GUIDE, THESE PROGRAMS CAN BE PUT INTO THAT PLACE.

SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I WILL BRING GUY UP AND LET HIM GO OVER THIS PROPOSAL.

THANK YOU, MISS PEDDY. THANK YOU, MISS PEDDY.

I APPRECIATE THAT QUITE A BIT, AND LET ME JUST SAY HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE BEING HERE TONIGHT.

IT'S A REAL PLEASURE, A REAL HONOR.

I'VE GOT MY WIFE AND MY BOY HERE LISTENING, AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I SAY TONIGHT.

PROBABLY GIVE ME A HARD TIME.

LET ME START OUT WITH DR.

LEDBETTER. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING US COME AND PRESENT THIS TO YOU, HONORABLE PRESIDENT CAM BRYAN.

I CAN READ IT RIGHT OFF THERE AND ALL THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS.

WE APPRECIATE IT, AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF WHO ARE LIKE THE BLOCKERS AND TACKLERS ON ANY FOOTBALL TEAM.

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PEOPLE PROBABLY ASK, WHERE DID THIS IDEA COME FROM? I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M NOT THE FIRST GUY IN THIS COMMITTEE THAT'S HAD THE IDEA OF CARROLL BUSINESS ACADEMY.

I'M LOOKING AT SEVERAL ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO WERE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN THIS.

SOME TIME AGO, I GRABBED THE DOMAIN NAME PROBABLY AROUND 8 TO 9 YEARS AGO WHEN MY DAUGHTER WENT THROUGH CARROLL MEDICAL ACADEMY AND I GO, WOW, WHAT A MARVELOUS PROGRAM, AND WE WERE SO HONORED TO HAVE HER GO THROUGH THAT.

SHE'S AT A&M RIGHT NOW GETTING READY TO START OUR MCATS FOR MEDICAL SCHOOL.

WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS THERE.

MAYBE SHE CAN WORK ON HER BROTHER WHO TORE HIS KNEE UP THE OTHER DAY, AND SO THIS IS ALL A REALLY GREAT THING THAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN.

LET ME TELL YOU. WHAT DO YOU SEE THAT'S MISSING IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW? YEAH, TOUGH QUESTION BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.

THERE IS A SPIRIT OF THE FUTURE THAT'S NOT EVEN IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW.

THE NEXT CHATGPT, THE NEXT AI.

WHAT'S THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WE DON'T KNOW, BUT WE KNOW THAT OUR STUDENTS, OUR KIDS ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THAT DREAM, AND WHAT ARE WE DOING AS INDIVIDUALS TO GIVE THEM THAT PATHWAY, THAT GATEWAY TO GET THERE? WE THINK CARROLL BUSINESS ACADEMY IS THAT WAY IN WHICH WE DO IT, AND I'M GOING TO CALL ON THE SPIRIT OF ROSS PEROT.

THERE HE IS RIGHT NOW. ONE OF HIS FAMOUS SAYINGS, I WOULD USE HIS ACCENT, BUT I DO A HORRIBLE JOB AT IT.

HE SAYS, HAVE A CLEAR VISION, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE ASKED MY TEAM TO DO IS JUST SIMPLY HAVE A CLEAR VISION, PRESENT OUR WONDERFUL PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY WITH A FRAMEWORK, A SKELETON, AND LET'S LET THE SYSTEM FIGURE OUT WHAT THE MEAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, WHAT THE MUSCLES ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE, THE SINEW. WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS AND YOU WON'T GET THEM HERE TONIGHT, BUT WE WILL GET THEM TO YOU EVENTUALLY, BUT WHAT WE DO HOPE TO PRESENT TO YOU IS AN EXCELLENT FRAMEWORK. SO SAYS HAVE A CLEAR VISION.

ROSS PEROT. WHAT IS CARROLL BUSINESS ACADEMY? WELL, WE SEE IT AS BEING VERY IMMERSIVE AND A FLAGSHIP PROGRAM, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF HONOR IN.

WE'RE GOING TO HANG OUR HAT ON THIS.

WE SEE COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY DEVELOPING THESE.

WE CAN ASSURE YOU THAT OURS WILL SURPASS ALL OF THESE AND THEY WILL BE A DIAMOND IN THE CROWN, ANOTHER DIAMOND IN THE CROWN OF CARROLL ISD SCHOOL DISTRICT AND OF THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WHY CARROLL CBA? NOW, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

IT GOES BACK TO WHEN MY DAUGHTER WAS IN CARROLL MEDICAL ACADEMY, AND AGAIN, I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW GREAT THAT PROGRAM, WHAT THAT MEANT TO HER RUNWAY GOING FORWARD, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED WAS SOME OF THE KIDS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THEM, BUT QUITE A FEW DECIDED TO GO INTO THE BUSINESS WORLD AND I SAID TO MYSELF, HOW CAN WE COMPLEMENT CARROLL BUSINESS ACADEMY? AND I THINK THAT'S THE WAY YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.

IT'S A MARRIAGE. IT'S A COMPLIMENT.

IT'S NOT COMPETITION. IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE BECAUSE CARROLL MEDICAL ACADEMY HAS GOT SUCH A GREAT HISTORY AND PROVENANCE OF WHAT IT'S BEEN ABLE TO DO, AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE CAME BY THE IDEA.

I WENT OUT AND GRABBED THE DOMAIN NAME YEARS AGO.

CARROLL BUSINESS ACADEMY .COM .NET .ORG.

JUST DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO WITH IT, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN ALL THE PIECES KIND OF STARTED COMING TOGETHER.

ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I STARTED GETTING PHONE CALLS FROM INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY GO, HOW ABOUT YOU DUST THAT CARROLL BUSINESS ACADEMY IDEA OFF? SO WE KIND OF STARTED PITCHING IT TO SMALLER GROUPS AND BIGGER GROUPS, AND THEN WE FOUND OUT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT, AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME BY THE WHY OF CARROLL BUSINESS ACADEMY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WHO'S IT FOR? REALLY AND TRULY, IT'S BASICALLY FOR ANY ENTREPRENEURIAL MINDED STUDENT OUT THERE, WHETHER THEY PLAN TO GO THE COLLEGE TRACK OR THEY PLAN TO GO THE NON COLLEGE TRACK, WE WANT TO GIVE A PATHWAY.

WE WANT TO GIVE A GUIDANCE, A BOOK, A PLAYBOOK OF HOW THEY CAN MAKE THOSE DREAMS COME TRUE.

CBA FOCUS GROUPS.

I THINK THIS CAME OUT OF A VERY RECENT MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH AN ADMINISTRATOR OR TWO, AND IN THAT THEY GO, WELL, WE KNOW YOUR OPINION ABOUT IT.

WE KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT CARROLL BUSINESS ACADEMY.

HAVE YOU TALKED TO ANY OF THE KIDS ABOUT IT? AND I GO, THAT, SIR, IS A GREAT IDEA.

DANNY, TAKE A NOTE, AND SO WHAT DID HE DID? WHAT DID HE DO? HE TOOK NOTES ON IT, AND SO WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER AD HOC FOCUS GROUPS RIGHT NOW.

WE INTEND TO REALLY IMMERSE OURSELVES IN THAT WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE SCHOOL AND WORK WITH YOU GUYS ON HOW TO MAKE THOSE FOCUS GROUPS GIVE US THE IDEAS WE NEED TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. SO LOOK AT THIS HANDSOME YOUNG MAN.

THIS IS BASIL AZIM, AND MY BOY ACTUALLY GOT TO WORK FOR HIM AS AN INTERN.

THIS IS A SHINING EXAMPLE OF WHAT OUR COMMUNITY WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND ALREADY DOES.

RECENTLY MARRIED, LIVES HERE IN SOUTHLAKE HOPE TO HAVE YOUR FAMILY HERE SOMEDAY, AND I'VE ASKED HIM TO COME UP TO KIND OF GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT

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SO COME ON UP HERE, BOSS.

THANK YOU, GUY, FOR THE KIND WORDS.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BASIL AZIM.

I WENT TO NEW YORK UNIVERSITY, GRADUATED IN THE END OF 2020.

I INTERNED AT PRICEWATERHOUSECOOPERS, WORKED FOR THEM FOR A LITTLE BIT IN NEW YORK AND THEN IN THEIR DALLAS OFFICE AS WELL.

PRETTY MUCH WORKED ON COMMERCIAL MORTGAGE BACKED SECURITIES, DIDN'T REALLY ENJOY IT AS MUCH.

SO THEN CAME BACK HOME, STARTED WORKING WITH THE FAMILY IN REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT AND REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT.

WE HAVE PROJECTS ALL OVER DFW, ONE OF WHICH IS THE CARILLON PARC PROJECT, WHICH CURRENTLY I'M OVERSEEING THE CONSTRUCTION OVER THERE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME. I JUST WANTED TO PRETTY MUCH TELL YOU MY THOUGHTS ON THIS PROGRAM.

WHEN I SAT WITH DANNY AND GUY AND REALLY DOVE INTO THIS PROGRAM, WHAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM IT, THERE WERE TWO, YOU KNOW, MAIN BENEFITS THAT I SAW IMMEDIATELY, AND ONE WAS JUST FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A STUDENT.

I HAVE TWO YOUNGER BROTHERS AND I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T HAVE THE CBA PROGRAM IN HIGH SCHOOL.

I REALLY WISHED I DID BECAUSE I REALLY WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH ALL THOSE PRINCIPAL CLASSES OF PRINCIPLES OF MARKETING, BASICS OF YOUR FINANCE AND ACCOUNTING, AND I WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, REALLY UNDERSTOOD WHAT I WANTED TO DO IN COLLEGE RATHER THAN GETTING TO COLLEGE AND, YOU KNOW, EXPLORING DIFFERENT CLASSES.

SO, ONE, I WOULD HAVE SAVED A LOT OF TIME, SAVED A LOT OF MONEY ON MY CLASSES OR ELECTIVES THAT PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO TAKE, BUT JUST CHOSE TO BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING.

EVERYONE'S TELLING ME TO GO INTO INVESTMENT BANKING OR CONSULTING AND I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT I WANTED TO DO.

SO I FEEL LIKE IF MY BROTHERS OR SOME OF THE INTERNS THAT COME AND WORK AT OUR OFFICE, IF THEY HAD SOME CBA PROGRAM LIKE THIS, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET A HEAD START AND REALLY DIAL IN TO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IN COLLEGE, AND THEN FROM LIKE A COMMUNITY MEMBER'S POINT OF VIEW OR FROM A BUSINESS OWNER'S POINT OF VIEW, WITH THIS PROGRAM, I FEEL LIKE WE WOULD HAVE LIKE A NETWORK OF INTERNS THAT WE COULD TAP INTO EVERY SUMMER IF WE NEEDED SOME EXTRA HELP AT THE OFFICE OR WE'RE LOOKING FOR LIKE JUST SOME MARKETING INTERN TO COME IN AND HELP US.

THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CLASSES THAT THEY'RE TAKING IN HIGH SCHOOL AND FROM WHAT THEY WOULD BE LEARNING FROM US, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BRING A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND HELP US HELP OUR BUSINESS OUT AS WELL, RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, JUST US TEACHING THEM EVERYTHING.

THEY WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO TEACH US SOMETHING AS WELL.

SO I'M GOING TO HAND IT OFF TO DANNY.

THANK YOU. NOT QUITE, WE'RE ALMOST THERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.

I HAD NO IDEA WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY.

[CHUCKLING] WE HADN'T PLANNED THAT PART OF IT AT ALL, AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION OR IF I FAILED TO MENTION KRISTEN GARCIA, WHO COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT.

SHE'S KIND OF OUR CURRICULUM GURU.

SHE'S WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATORS TO MAKE SURE THOSE VERY COMPLEX BUT ESSENTIAL PIECES COME TOGETHER.

SHE'S GOT THE FLU. SHE'S AT HOME TONIGHT.

IF SHE'S WATCHING, THOUGH, KRISTEN AND DANNY [INAUDIBLE], I MEAN, THIS GUY, HE SHOWED ME A BOOK NOT TOO LONG AGO CALLED ROCKET FUEL, AND IN THAT BOOK, THERE WAS TWO ELEMENTS REALLY IMPORTANT. THERE WAS THE VISION, AND I'VE BEEN SITTING ON THIS VISION FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS, BUT THERE'S THE INNOVATORS.

WITHOUT INNOVATORS, NO PROGRAM.

I REPEAT THAT WITHOUT INNOVATORS, NO PROGRAM CAN EVER BE A SUCCESS, AND AS LUCK WOULD HAVE IT, OUR PATHS CROSSED ABOUT A YEAR AGO, AND IT'S BEEN A BROMANCE EVER SINCE.

I MEAN, IT REALLY HAS BEEN.

SO DANNY WHY DON'T YOU COME ON UP HERE AND TELL US WHAT YOU GOT.

SURE. WELL, THANK YOU, GUY, AND BASIL, I REALLY WANT TO ECHO YOUR COMMENTS BECAUSE AS YOU WERE SAYING THAT, I WAS THINKING, MAN, I WISH I HAD THIS PROGRAM WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL. I PROBABLY WOULD NEVER HAVE EVEN GONE TO LAW SCHOOL.

I WOULD HAVE JUST GONE STRAIGHT INTO BUSINESS, BUT DR.

LEDBETTER AND CAM AND ALL OF THE TRUSTEES AND ADMINISTRATORS, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE KIDS AND THE DISTRICT.

WE MOVED HERE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, AND IT REALLY WAS THE BEST DECISION I COULD HAVE EVER MADE TO HAVE MY KIDS GO TO SCHOOL HERE AND ATTEND THE SCHOOLS AND THE PROGRAMS AND EVERYTHING. SO I'M JUST HONORED TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU AND BE PRESENTING THIS PROGRAM.

SO WHEN I GOT TO PEPPERDINE LAW SCHOOL, I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE AN ENTREPRENEUR, AND I ASKED THEM, HEY, WHERE ARE THE BUSINESS CLASSES? AND THEY SAID, OH, THEY'RE ACROSS THE STREET AT THE MBA SCHOOL.

WE DON'T HAVE BUSINESS CLASSES HERE, AND I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S WEIRD.

I THOUGHT YOU DO LIKE BUSINESS LAW OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THEY SAID, NOT REALLY.

MY SECOND YEAR, OUR CORPORATIONS PROFESSOR APPROACHED US AND SAID, HEY, I HAVE THIS VISION FOR A BUSINESS ACADEMY STYLE THING, AND I WAS LIKE, OH, AMAZING, AND SO SHE GOT TOGETHER A GROUP OF US, AND WE FORMED THE PEPPERDINE CENTER FOR ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND THE LAW, AND THAT WAS ABOUT 23 YEARS AGO, AND SO WHEN GUY CAME TO ME WITH A VERY SIMILAR VISION AND THANK YOU, GUY, I THINK THE STARS, AS HE SAID, REALLY ALIGNED WHEN HE CAME TO ME WITH A SIMILAR VISION.

I WAS LIKE, MAN, THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE.

YOU KNOW THAT THIS HAPPENED TWICE AND THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE IT, AND SO THE BEAUTY OF THIS, OF THIS TEAM IS THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD A SUCCESSFUL

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THAT PROGRAM STARTED WITH A VERY SMALL GROUP, ABOUT 25 OF US.

ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WAS HAPPENED TO BE MY WIFE, AND SO WE GOT MARRIED AND MET IN THAT CENTER, WHICH WAS AWESOME, BUT THAT STILL GOES.

TODAY WE GOT INITIAL FUNDING FROM A PROMINENT REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER, RICK CARUSO, WHO RECENTLY RAN FOR MAYOR IN L.A, AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY WE RECEIVED AN ENDOWMENT OF OVER $5 MILLION FROM GEOFFREY PALMER FOR THAT CENTER.

SO AS I SAID, A LOT OF THE COMPONENTS, A LOT OF THE THINGS YOU'LL SEE TONIGHT ARE MODELED AFTER THAT PROGRAM, AND SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION, HEY, WHAT MAKES CBA DIFFERENT? AND YOU GUYS, WHAT REALLY MAKES THIS PROGRAM DIFFERENT IS IT'S NOT A LECTURE, IT'S NOT A CLASS.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE PRESENTING TO THE KIDS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE STUDENTS WILL BE IMMERSED IN AND THAT THEY WILL BE ACTUALLY DOING.

THEY WILL BE CREATING EVERYTHING THAT WE DO WITH THE HELP OF THE ADVISORY BOARD, THE FACULTY ADVISOR AND EVERYONE ELSE, BUT IT REALLY WILL BE RUN BY THE STUDENT FELLOWS, EVERYTHING FROM CORPORATE GOVERNANCE, SETTING UP THE CORPORATION TO ALL THE FINANCE, TO THE FUNDING, TO THE LEGAL EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO DO.

THEY WILL HAVE TO DO. THEY'LL HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT, AND I WILL TELL YOU GUYS THAT, PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, A LOT OF THE THINGS I LEARNED AT THAT CENTER FOR ENTREPRENEURSHIP I STILL USE TODAY FORMING CORPORATIONS, FINANCE PANELS, ALL OF THAT STUFF.

I DIDN'T LEARN IT IN SCHOOL.

I LEARNED IT AT THE CENTER.

I LEARNED IT THROUGH THE INTERNSHIPS, THE MENTORSHIPS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DID THERE.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED AND PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS, IF YOU CAN'T TELL.

SO SOME OF THE COMPONENTS THAT ARE A PART OF THE CARROLL BUSINESS ACADEMY ARE, OF COURSE, THE CURRICULUM PIECE, AS GINA PEDDY MENTIONED, AND THAT'S JUST A COMPONENT OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING.

THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE A CLUB FOR CBA.

WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF THESE COMPONENTS.

DRAGON WORKS AS A PLAYBOOK THAT WE'LL BE RUNNING.

DRAGON TALKS, WHICH IS A VERSION OF TED TALKS, DRAGON TANK, WHICH WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.

THAT'S A VERSION OF SHARK TANK, OF COURSE, THE NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES, THE SOCIAL MEDIA, THE FUNDING AND MUCH, MUCH MORE.

SO BRIEFLY, I WANT TO JUST TALK ABOUT CURRICULUM.

KRISTEN, AS GUY SAID, IS NOT AVAILABLE TONIGHT, BUT AS FAR AS CURRICULUM GOES, THAT IS A COMPONENT OF WHAT WE ARE DOING.

IT'S NOT THE ENTIRETY, AND REALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IS FOCUSING ON TWO DIFFERENT TRACKS.

THERE'S THE COLLEGE PATH FOR THE KIDS AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ALTERNATIVE TRACKS FOR KIDS THAT MAY NOT BE INTERESTED IN AS MUCH A HIGH END COLLEGE OR GPA IS NOT THEIR MAIN FOCUS.

IT'LL GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO REALLY FOCUS ON, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DEVELOPING.

WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE KIM GOODMAN, GINA PEDY, KRISTEN, ALL WORKING ON THE CURRICULUM.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE CONTINUOUSLY DEVELOPED, AND AS GINA MENTIONED, THERE ALREADY IS A BUSINESS MARKETING AND FINANCE PATH FOR THE KIDS.

WE WILL JUST BE EXPANDING ON THAT WITH SOME PROPOSED ADJUSTMENTS TO THE ON LEVEL TRACK AS WELL AS CREATING AN HONORS AND AN AP TRACK TO ATTRACT THE GPA MINDED STUDENTS. WITHIN ALL OF THIS, WE'RE GOING TO BE MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF THE CTE PATHS TO BENEFIT THE MONETIZATION OF THE SCHOOL, AND ALSO ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OF IS THAT WE ALLOW CURRENT STUDENTS, OUR SOPHOMORES, JUNIORS AND SENIORS, TO STILL BE ABLE TO PLUG INTO CBA, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT STARTING FROM THE BEGINNING.

SO THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US.

SO THE ON LEVEL PATH STARTS WITH NINTH GRADE.

THEY'LL TAKE A PRINCIPLES OF BUSINESS CLASS, THE CBA CLASS.

THROUGHOUT. THEY'LL HAVE SOME 10TH GRADE ELECTIVES AND THEN IN 11TH AND 12TH GRADE, THEY'LL BE DOING A BUSINESS ACADEMY PRACTICUM THAT'S ON LEVEL.

THE ADVANCED AND AP PATH IS ESSENTIALLY VERY SIMILAR, ALTHOUGH IN 11TH AND 12TH GRADE, THEY'LL BE DOING AN AP PRACTICUM WHICH CULMINATES WITH DRAGON TANK, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN JUST A SECOND.

THE IMPORTANT THING THERE IS THAT THIS CLASS ALREADY EXISTS.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE REPURPOSED FOR CBA.

GUY. YEAH, THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING SLIDE AND WE KIND OF PUT IT IN RECENTLY, AND THE REASON WE DID WAS MY BOY WAS BASICALLY GOING THROUGH [INAUDIBLE] AT TEXAS TECH UNTIL HE WRECKED HIS KNEE, UNFORTUNATELY, AND HE'S GETTING TO DO THAT ONLINE, BUT DURING THAT CONVERSATION, I MET ONE OF THE ASSISTANT DEANS OF THE BUSINESS SCHOOL THERE, AND I WAS KIND OF BOUNCING OFF THIS IS WHEN WE'RE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF THIS, AND I WAS EXPLAINING IT TO HER AND SHE GOES, WELL, HOW ABOUT WE SIT DOWN, WE HAVE COFFEE AND WE TALK ABOUT THIS? AND SHE GOES, I REALLY LIKE THIS IDEA.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, SHE GOES, I LIKE IT SO MUCH.

I'D RATHER YOU NOT TALK TO A&M OR THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS ABOUT IT.

JUST HOW ABOUT WE JUST BUILD A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN US? I SAID, WELL, I'LL BOUNCE IT OFF THE SCHOOL BOARD AND ADMINISTRATORS AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY, AND BUT I SAID, WHAT IS THE VALUE YOU ACTUALLY SEE IN IT? SHE GOES, I SEE THIS AS A DIRECT GATEWAY, A PATHWAY FROM YOUR HIGH SCHOOL GIVING US THE PRODUCT.

EXACTLY THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AND I GO, LIGHT CAME ON.

SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

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NO, WE'RE JUST REALLY EXCITED ABOUT CREATING THAT OPPORTUNITY BETWEEN THE COLLEGES AND THE SCHOOL AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

SO CLUB CBA, WHICH WE MENTIONED, IS GOING TO BE ONE COMPONENT OF THIS, AND ESSENTIALLY IT WILL GIVE THE FELLOWS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET STARTED IMMEDIATELY AND IT'LL RUN CONCURRENTLY WITH THE CURRICULUM, AND THIS IS KIND OF GOING TO BE THE GLUE BETWEEN THE CURRICULUM AND THE SCHOOL AND THEN ALL OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE, INCLUDING DRAGON TALKS.

SO I LOVE THIS SLIDE BECAUSE I'M SO PROUD OF THIS BUILDING.

MY BOY, WHO'S A MARVELOUS TRUMPETER, AND HE'S PERFORMED IN THIS BUILDING ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, AND I WAS SITTING RIGHT UP THERE AT THE TOP OF THE LEFT HAND, SECOND LAYER, AND I WAS LOOKING AND I WAS LISTENING TO HIM PLAYING, AND I WAS SAYING TO MYSELF, WOULDN'T THAT BE A GREAT PLACE TO HAVE OUR VERSION OF A TED TALK? AND I GO, OH, DRAGON TALK RIGHT THERE.

KLIEG LIGHTS SHOWING DOWN ON SOMEONE LIKE MARK CUBAN.

I DON'T KNOW. HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS, AND HE'S STANDING RIGHT THERE IN THE CENTER AND HE'S GIVING A PRESENTATION PRETTY MUCH LIKE A TED TALK.

WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT DRAGON TALK, A BIG GREEN CIRCLE ABOUT THAT BIG WITH A DRAGON IN THE CENTER OF IT, AND HE'LL BE STANDING RIGHT THERE AND TALKING TO ALL OF US.

SO, OH, YEAH, DRAGON WORKS.

THIS CAME OUT OF OUR LAST MEETING.

DR. LEDBETTER, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THIS ONE AND THERE ARE SEVERAL INSPIRATIONS THAT ACTUALLY COMES TO MIND.

PLAYBOOK. I PLAYED FOOTBALL WITHOUT A PLAYBOOK.

YOU REALLY YOU CAN'T PLAY FOOTBALL.

YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE IT.

JUSTIN LEONARD ARE PHENOMENAL CROSS COUNTRY COACH HAD HIS KIDS KEEP A PLAYBOOK A RUNNING BOOK.

MY DAUGHTER CHERISHED THAT UNTIL SHE WENT TO A&M AND SHE ACTUALLY USED THAT TO APPLY FOR DIFFERENT CLASSES TO SHOW WHAT DEDICATION LOOKS LIKE, AND I GO, WE'RE STEALING THAT IDEA.

WE'RE GOING TO TRADEMARK IT AND WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT DRAGON WORKS, AND AT THE END OF IT, THEY'RE GOING TO EARN A CERTIFICATION AT THE END OF IT.

SO THE LAST PAGE WILL BE THEIR CERTIFICATION.

ANOTHER COMPONENT OF CBA IS GOING TO BE A CAREER DAY, AND YOU KNOW, AS BASIL KIND OF ALLUDED TO, ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON IS CREATING THAT CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE STUDENTS AND OUR LOCAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE THERE THAT'S NOT REALLY BEING USED OR UTILIZED RIGHT NOW.

SO OUR CAREER DAY WILL FEATURE LOCAL BUSINESSES AND ENTREPRENEURS, ALLOW THE KIDS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT GOES ON AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SOME ADDITIONAL PROGRAM HIGHLIGHTS ARE, OF COURSE, NETWORKING.

AS WE ALL KNOW, NETWORKING IS KING IN BUSINESS, AND I DIDN'T LEARN THAT UNTIL A LOT LATER.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ALLOWING NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES.

ANOTHER THING THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS IS INTERNSHIPS AND MENTORSHIP.

AT PEPPERDINE ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT WE HAD AT OUR PROGRAM WAS A REQUIREMENT TO FIND A MENTOR AND ESTABLISH A MENTORSHIP RELATIONSHIP, AND THAT ALLOWED US TO GO OUT TO INDUSTRY AND REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW TO ASK FOR THINGS, HOW TO ASK PEOPLE, CAN YOU BE MY MENTOR AND WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL? AND SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT AS WELL AS SCHOLARSHIPS AND GRANTS.

THE LAST TWO YEARS OF THE AP PROGRAM ARE SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE OUR CBA DRAGON TANK.

OF COURSE, THAT'S A PLAY ON SHARK TANK, WHICH IF YOU DID NOT KNOW, WAS NOT THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM.

GUY TOLD ME THAT THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM WAS CALLED DRAGON DEN, AND SO WE'RE KIND OF PLAYING OFF OF ALL THAT WE GOT.

WE HAD DRAGON DEN, WE HAD SHARK TANK, WE'LL HAVE DRAGON TANK, AND SO WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE IS THE LAST TWO YEARS OF THE PROGRAM OF CBA STUDENTS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FORM TEAMS. THE ENTREPRENEUR OR THE ENTREPRENEUR MAYBE THE COO ALL THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND PUT TOGETHER A REAL BUSINESS PROPOSITION WHICH WILL CULMINATE WITH A REAL INVESTMENT PITCH JUST LIKE ON SHARK TANK IN FRONT OF REAL INVESTORS, THESE BUSINESSES WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET FUNDED.

WE ACTUALLY HAD SEVERAL BUSINESSES MY YEAR AT PEPPERDINE THAT GOT FUNDED, STARTED, ENDED UP SELLING, AND SO THIS IS JUST A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR THE STUDENTS AND FOR LOCAL BUSINESS LEADERS THAT CAN COME IN AND INVEST IN COMPANIES AND THEN AT THE END OF THE PROGRAM, AS GUY MENTIONED EARLY ON, WE SEE THIS AS A VERY VALUABLE CERTIFICATE PROGRAM AT GRADUATION WITH RIBBON CERTIFICATE AND ALL OF THOSE ACCOLADES AND HIGHLIGHTS IN TERMS OF GOVERNANCE AND OUR INITIAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS, WE MODELED THIS AGAIN AFTER THE PEPPERDINE PROGRAM THAT I WAS A PART OF.

THIS WILL CONSIST OF A CISD FACULTY ADVISOR, AND KIM GOODMAN, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING ON THE TEAM HERE.

WE'LL ALSO HAVE AN ADVISORY BOARD THAT WILL CONSIST OF LOCAL BUSINESS LEADERS, HOPEFULLY A MEMBER OF THE CISD BOARD AND THEN ALSO A MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL. WE ALREADY HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S EXPRESSED A LOT OF INTEREST IN DOING THAT, AS WELL AS SOME INITIAL CBA STUDENT FELLOWS.

THEY WILL FORM THAT INITIAL BOARD THAT COMES UP WITH THE POLICIES, THE MANUALS, EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THAT HELPS WITH CURRICULUM AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR IP.

YEAH, SURE. BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THAT, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INTERNSHIPS, MENTORSHIPS.

I'M GOING TO ASK REPRESENT YOU GUYS AND SAY, DANNY, WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK HAVE YOU HAD IN THE COMMUNITY WHEN YOU TALK TO PEOPLE? HOW MUCH ENTHUSIASM ARE YOU SEEING FROM YOUR VANTAGE POINT? YEAH, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, GUY. YOU KNOW, WE SEE IT WITH SOMEONE LIKE BASIL WHO COMES UP.

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THEY'RE SO INTERESTED IN BEING A PART OF IT IN ANY WAY.

I JUST HAD A CONVERSATION THE OTHER DAY WITH SOMEONE WHO SAID, I SET UP 501(C)(3) FOR A LIVING AND I'LL DONATE MY TIME AND DO IT FOR YOU GUYS IF YOU WANT, AND HE SAID, I DID MY LAST ONE IN A RECORD TIME OF 60 DAYS, AND I SAID, OKAY, I DON'T HAVE A REFERENCE POINT, BUT IS THAT GOOD? HE SAID, IT'S A RECORD.

SO HE SAID, I'LL DONATE MY TIME.

I WAS JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE THAT'S WORKED FOR ELON MUSK AT SPACEX AND HAS WORKED AT GOOGLE, AND HE SAID, I CAN GET THEM INTERNSHIPS.

WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT? SO EVERYONE IS JUST SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND ABOUT CONNECTING WITH OUR STUDENTS.

IT'S REALLY A COOL THING.

INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY IS REALLY IMPORTANT HOW YOU BRAND YOURSELF, THE MERCH, WHATEVER COMES OUT OF THIS.

WE DON'T KNOW, BUT I DID ASK AN ARTIST, I GAVE THEM ACCESS TO THE CISD STYLE GUIDE AND I SAID, COULD YOU PLEASE PRODUCE THREE POTENTIAL LOGOS FOR US TO USE? AND I PRESENT THESE TO YOU JUST MORE AS AN IDEA.

I THINK THE KIDS WILL PROBABLY EVENTUALLY DECIDE ON WHICH ONE THEY LIKE THE MOST.

SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY ABOUT THAT ONE.

YEAH. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'LL BE DEVELOPING WE ALREADY HAVE A JUST A LANDING PAGE UP, BUT WE SEE OUR CBA WEBSITE AS MORE OF A PORTAL THAT WILL ALLOW THE KIDS TO HAVE THEIR BIOS THERE AND ALLOW THEM TO REALLY REPRESENT THEMSELVES PROFESSIONALLY FOR ANYTHING THAT THEY MAY WANT.

MOST IMPORTANT ABOUT THE WEBSITE ACTUALLY IS SOMETHING THAT BASIL ALREADY SAID, WHICH IS A CONNECTION BETWEEN THE STUDENTS AND LOCAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

LAST YEAR I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING ON THE CISD STRATEGIC PLANNING MARKETING COMMITTEE.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THERE WAS THAT THERE IS CURRENTLY NO PORTAL FOR KIDS TO CONNECT WITH FOR INTERNSHIPS AND MENTORSHIPS.

IT DOESN'T EXIST, AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN AS ONE OF OUR PRIMARY INITIATIVES, WHICH WILL ALLOW BUSINESSES TO REGISTER AND SAY, HEY, I NEED SOMEONE FOR A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT WHO WANTS TO APPLY FOR KIDS TO SEARCH OUT BUSINESSES.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT OUR WEBSITE AS REALLY A FLAGSHIP PORTAL THERE.

IN TERMS OF SOCIAL MEDIA, WE NOT ONLY SEE THAT AS A, [CHUCKLING] WE NOT ONLY SEE THAT AS A MARKETING OPPORTUNITY FOR CBA AND THE STUDENTS, BUT WE SEE IT AS A REVENUE GENERATOR, THINGS LIKE A YOUTUBE CHANNEL THAT DOCUMENTS THE JOURNEY OF THE KIDS, THAT DOCUMENTS THE CREATION OF CBA, TIKTOK, INSTAGRAM, X, YOU KNOW, TWITTER, NEW TWITTER IS ALSO MONETIZING.

SO THERE'S ALL THESE WAYS FOR THE KIDS TO MONETIZE THESE THINGS, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT AS WELL AND SPEAKING OF MONETIZATION, A LOT OF YOU ARE PROBABLY THINKING, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR ALL THIS? AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE GUY TO TELL US, DANNY, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO PAY FOR IT? I MEAN, THE PARENTS, THE ADMINISTRATORS, I THINK EVERYBODY THAT'S PROBABLY THE VERY FIRST QUESTION THEY HAD.

WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THIS? I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU FIRST SHOT AT THAT.

SURE. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANT THE KIDS TO UNDERSTAND IS, IS BUSINESS FINANCE, AND WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING A BUSINESS, ONE OF THE PRIMARY THINGS IS HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR STUFF? AND WE DO NOT EXPECT ANYONE HERE.

WE DON'T EXPECT THE SCHOOL TO WRITE A CHECK FOR THIS.

THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE SELF-FUNDED.

THE KIDS ARE GOING TO DEVELOP FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH ENDOWMENTS AND SPONSORSHIPS.

AS I SAID AT PEPPERDINE, IT WAS NOT THAT CHALLENGING TO GET BUSINESS LEADERS TO REALLY GET INVESTED IN THIS BOTH FINANCIALLY AND CONTRIBUTING TIME, AND I REALLY DON'T SEE IT AS A CHALLENGE HERE.

LIKE I SAID, EVERYONE THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO HAS BEEN SO INTERESTED.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR ENDOWMENTS AND OUR SPONSORSHIPS, OUR GRANTS, BUT THEN WE SEE ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS LIKE AN ANNUAL GALA GOLF TOURNAMENT, THE DRAGON TALKS AND DRAGON TANK ARE ALL EVENTS THAT CAN GENERATE REVENUE AS WELL AS SOCIAL MEDIA AND OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT TO SELL SOME APPAREL AND MERCH.

SO AS FAR AS THE TIMELINE OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SUPER EXCITED AND THRILLED AND THANKFUL THAT YOU'VE ALLOWED US TO INTRODUCE THE PROGRAM AND PROPOSE IT.

WE'VE ALSO SECURED OUR FACULTY ADVISORS.

SO KIM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT, AND THEN OF COURSE, WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THE ENDORSEMENT OF OF YOU AS WELL AS THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT, THIS YEAR, OUR VISION IS TO PRESENT THIS TO THE STUDENTS AND ASSEMBLE OUR INITIAL STUDENT ADVISORY BOARD OF FELLOWS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THIS AND THAT REALLY WANT TO TAKE AN ACTIVE ROLE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHICH WILL THEN SUBSEQUENTLY GO ON TO THE FORMAL LAUNCH OF CARROLL BUSINESS ACADEMY WITH ALL OF THE COMPONENTS, THE DEVELOPED CURRICULUM AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS FOR THE 2024-2025 SCHOOL YEAR, AND NOW IT'S TIME FOR SHAMELESS PROMOTION.

BECAUSE WE ARE ENTREPRENEURS AND CAPITALISTS, WE NEVER MISS A CHANCE TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH THIS.

I'M GOING TO BREAK PROTOCOL.

I'M GOING TO ASK A SMALL FAVOR OF YOU GUYS IF YOU HAVE YOUR CELL PHONE, AND I KNOW ERIC DOES BECAUSE I SEE HIM TYPING AWAY ON IT, POINT IT AT THE QR CODE AND TEST THIS OUT AND SEE IF IT WORKS.

GO AHEAD. ANYBODY.

BETTER WORK. DOES IT WORK? AND DON'T FORGET TO SIGN UP.

PASS IT AROUND.

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ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WANTS TO BE INVOLVED WITH THIS, THAT HAPPENS TO BE LISTENING TO THIS.

PARTICULARLY IF YOU OWN A BUSINESS, YOU'RE AN ENTREPRENEUR.

THIS IS YOUR NEXUS, THIS IS YOUR PORTAL, AND THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.

THIS IS THE 1.0 OF THIS WEBSITE.

EVENTUALLY, THIS WILL BE THE NEXUS BY WHICH ALL THE INFORMATION IS DISPERSED.

WE CAN EVEN IMAGINE SOME OF OUR KIDS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO GO INTO THE BUSINESS WORLD, BUT THEY MAY WANT TO BE WRITERS.

THIS IS WHERE THEIR BUSINESS LETTER COULD LIVE RIGHT HERE, GO OUT QUARTERLY, MONTHLY, BIANNUAL OR WHATEVER.

SO WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE HERE AT THIS POINT? TIME FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

SO WE OPEN IT UP AND YEAH, FOR SURE.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS.

I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT YOU'VE PUT SO MUCH THOUGHT AND TIME INTO THIS.

YOU KNOW, YOU ALMOST ANSWERED ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.

I JUST THINK THIS IS SO INCREDIBLE TO OFFER FROM THE COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE TO DO THINGS LIKE THIS BASED ON OUR CURRENT BUDGET SITUATION AND OTHER THINGS.

I JUST, YOU KNOW, MORE IT'S MORE THAN JUST A CURRICULUM THING.

IT REALLY IS A TRUE IMMERSION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND SOMETHING THAT REALLY IS GOING TO PAY DIVIDENDS FOR OUR KIDS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS IS THAT IT'S NOT BASED ON A GPA.

WE WANT TO OPEN THIS UP TO ANYBODY, ANY STUDENT THAT MAY BE INTERESTED IN SUCH A THING AND I REALLY LIKE THE TWO TRACKS.

I LIKE THE COLLEGE TRACK AND I LIKE THE ALTERNATIVE TRACK.

I JUST THINK THAT IS THAT IS FABULOUS, AND I APPRECIATE, DR.

LEDBETTER, YOU AND MISS GOODMAN AND MISS PEDDY FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND DOING THIS.

A LOT OF US CAMPAIGNED ON ESTABLISHING SOMETHING LIKE A CARROLL BUSINESS ACADEMY.

WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO DO IT.

SO THANK YOU GUYS AND YOUR TEAM FOR STEPPING UP TO PUT THIS IN FRONT OF US, AND THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ASK YOU GUYS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE CURRICULUM TRACK, I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO USE THE TEACHERS THAT WE HAVE EMPLOYED TODAY AND THEN EMPLOY MORE IF THERE'S A NEED.

IS THAT CORRECT, DR. LEDBETTER? YES AND NO. WE WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF DETERMINING WHO.

YES, WE WILL. WE WILL ABSOLUTELY HIRE THE TEACHERS NECESSARY FOR THE PROGRAM.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO LOOKING AT THE SEQUENCE OF THE COURSES AND WHAT WE NEED IN TERMS OF CERTIFICATIONS AS TO WHETHER WE HAVE TO HIRE AN ADDITIONAL TEACHER OR SOMEONE WITH DIFFERENT CERTIFICATIONS TO HANDLE THIS.

SO SOME OF THOSE ARE QUESTIONS YET TO BE ANSWERED, BUT ABSOLUTELY WE WILL HANDLE THE HIRING OF STAFF TO BE EMPLOYED BY CARROLL, AND I HAVE JUST ONE MORE THING AND I'LL JUST I'LL OPEN IT UP. I REALLY LIKE THE MARKETING TO UNIVERSITIES.

I REALLY LIKE MARKETING TO TEXAS UNIVERSITIES SINCE IT'S SO VERY DIFFICULT TO KEEP OUR KIDS IN TEXAS UNIVERSITIES.

SO I WOULD JUST ASK YOU GUYS TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL, NOT JUST THE MAJOR UNIVERSITIES, BUT ALL OF THE OTHERS THAT ARE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BENEFIT OUR KIDS THE MOST.

THANK YOU. I'LL OPEN IT UP.

CAN I MAKE ONE QUICK COMMENT THERE? THANKS FOR TALKING ABOUT THE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF STUDENTS.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF US KNOW SOME OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL ENTREPRENEURS WERE C STUDENTS.

RIGHT, AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALLOW KIDS THAT AREN'T JUST HAVEN'T BEEN FOCUSED ON THEIR GPA TO BE A PART OF THIS PROGRAM.

THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO US FOR SURE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME KIDS SITTING THERE THAT IS INTERESTED IN BUSINESS AND NOT JUST GETTING ALL A'S.

I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT DANNY WAS THE A STUDENT AND I WAS THAT C STUDENT.

[CHUCKLING] WE APPRECIATE YOU RECOGNIZING THAT.

YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO GUY AND DANNY AND BASIL AND KRISTEN AND KIM AS WELL AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS FOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO DEVELOP THESE NEW PATHWAYS.

IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PRETTY EXTENSIVELY ON THE STRATEGIC PLANNING COMMITTEE THAT WE WERE ALL A PART OF AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALIZED IS THAT SOME DRAGONS WERE GETTING LEFT OUT.

SO I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS.

THIS REALLY CHECKS A LOT OF BOXES ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND IT ALSO CAN BENEFIT OUR DISTRICT TREMENDOUSLY FROM THE CTE PROGRAM. SO I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DEMAND I'M EXCITED.

APPRECIATE Y'ALL DOING THIS.

SO I AM JUST MORE AND MAYBE WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION YET OR NOT, BUT AND I DON'T KNOW FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, IT'S FROM AN INSTRUCTOR PERSPECTIVE, DOES IT ALLOW FOR US TO TAP IN TO OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY, LIKE FOR ADJUNCTS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO HIRE ALL OF OUR TEACHERS FULL TIME? SO THERE THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH, BUT ABSOLUTELY THROUGH OUR DISTRICT OF INNOVATION PLAN, WE CAN HIRE THOSE WHO ARE NOT CERTIFIED TEACHERS.

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SO WE'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THAT IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW WE HIRE THEM, THAT TYPE OF THING, BUT THERE ARE WAYS, I BELIEVE, THAT CAN BE DONE.

SO THANKS FOR THAT.

[INAUDIBLE] MR. JORDAN, MR. YEAGER ACTUALLY ADDRESSED THIS IN A MEETING THAT I HAD WITH HIM NOT TOO LONG AGO, WHERE HE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED THE ADJUNCT PROFESSOR.

AM I CORRECT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

I MEAN, UNIVERSITIES ARE DOING THIS.

IF YOU HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE, OFTENTIMES THAT MIGHT BE A REQUIREMENT, BUT THEY REALIZE THAT THEY'RE GETTING PEOPLE IN THE PROFESSIONAL WORLD THAT ARE GIVING STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, SYLLABUS KNOWLEDGE THAT TEXTBOOKS CAN'T EVEN KEEP UP WITH.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AI AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THAT LED ME TO MY QUESTION IS, I KNOW FOR A LONG TIME PEOPLE HAVE SAID, HOW CAN I GET INVOLVED IN MENTORSHIP? I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED MENTORSHIP REQUIREMENTS.

THAT'S GREAT. I MEAN, THAT YOU ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A REQUIRED MENTORSHIP AND THEN ALSO THAT SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE ASKED US, BUSINESS PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, I'D LOVE TO GET AN INTERN AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, NOT SLAMMING WHAT WE HAVE NOW BECAUSE THERE ARE CMA, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS A GOOD INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, BUT TO ME, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THAT.

IT'S ALMOST TO THE POINT OF HAVE YOU GIVEN THOUGHT? HOW DO YOU KIND OF QUALIFY? BECAUSE YOU MIGHT GET A TON OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THAT MENTORSHIP AS WELL AS INTERNSHIP.

YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU KIND OF, YOU KNOW, KEEP THE NUMBERS TO WHERE YOU NEED IT? AND HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AT ALL? WE HAVE, AND THAT'S WHY I STARTED OUT WITH THE SKELETON ANALOGY, FOLLOWED BY MUSCLE, FOLLOWED BY SKIN ORGANS.

SO WE DO REALIZE THAT THIS IS GOING TO GENERATE QUITE A FEW SUBCOMMITTEES AND WE'LL GET INTO THE SPECIAL SAUCE AS WE MOVE ALONG, BECAUSE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THOSE QUESTIONS ARE YET.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE A DYNAMIC OPERATION THAT WILL ALLOW ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED TO THE FULLEST REQUIRED BY NOT ONLY THE CITIZENS, TAXPAYING CITIZENS, BUT, OF COURSE, AND ONE MORE THING, IF I MAY.

I LOVE SELF FUNDED AND IT'S GREAT WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT PROGRAM AT PEPPERDINE.

IS THERE AN IDEA YET? I'M LOOKING BACK TO THE CURRICULUM TEAM ABOUT HOW MANY FTES WOULD BE NEEDED.

I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADJUNCTS PLAYING A ROLE, BUT DO WE? I THINK WE WANT TO KIND OF RIGHT NOW NOT JUMP INTO THAT DEGREE OF SPECIFICITY.

I THINK RIGHT NOW IT WOULD JUST BE THROWING MUD ON THE WALL AT THIS POINT.

OKAY. OKAY.

WE REALLY NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND KIND OF GET A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I JUST KNOW THE PACE TO GET READY FOR NEXT FALL IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE PRETTY QUICK ONE, RIGHT? OKAY. WE'RE READY.

OKAY. MR. JORDAN, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BECAUSE I SHOT RIGHT OVER.

NO, I JUST I GUESS MY POINT WAS WE HAVE SO MANY RESOURCES IN THIS COMMUNITY IF WE CAN TAP INTO THOSE RESOURCES.

THAT COULD REALLY FILL LOTS OF NEEDS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.

SO JUST A FEW COMMENTS.

FIRST OF ALL, GUY AND BASIL AND DANNY, THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.

I'M REALLY IMPRESSED AND I KNOW ALL OF US ARE EXCITED ABOUT GETTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN PLACE, AND YOU REALLY DO HAVE OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE ALREADY COMMENTED ABOUT IT, SOME GREAT MODELS.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT CMA, AND MY DAUGHTER ALSO KIND OF DECIDED WHAT SHE THINKS SHE WANTS TO DO IN HER LIFE BECAUSE OF THE INTERNSHIP THAT SHE HAD WITH CMA.

SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

I KNOW YOU JUST BRIEFLY COMMENTED ON IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS ACADEMY.

WE HAVE LOTS OF STUDENTS WHO ARE PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE A BUSINESS ROUTE WHEN THEY GO OFF TO COLLEGE AND WHEN THEY GO INTO THE WORLD AND THEY'RE USING UP SOME SPOTS OF CMA THAT REALLY KIDS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THE MEDICAL ROUTE WOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE USED, AND SO BY HAVING AN ALTERNATIVE OPPORTUNITY, THAT'S KIND OF A BUSINESS ROUTE, MAYBE SOME OF THE BUSINESS KIDS WON'T TAKE UP THE SEATS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN CMA.

SO IT'S JUST MORE OPPORTUNITY, BUT ON THE INTERNSHIPS, IT OCCURRED TO ME, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE CONNECTED WITH, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS GOING TO BE CONNECTED WITH ALL THE BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF SOUTH LAKE, AND I'M SURE THEY CAN HELP INTRODUCE YOU TO BUSINESS LEADERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS AND GET YOU CONNECTED AND JUST ON THE INTERNSHIPS ALONE, I MEAN, I WORK FOR A COMPANY THAT HIRES INTERNS EVERY SUMMER, NOT JUST COLLEGE AGE, BUT HIGH SCHOOL.

NOW WE TEND TO HIRE THE OLDER HIGH SCHOOL AGE KIDS, BUT I KNOW COMPANIES WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO DO THAT IF I MAY ADDRESS THAT POINT.

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GREAT, EXCELLENT. A GREAT POINT, AND ON GOVERNANCE STUFF, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATIONS NOT JUST LIKE CMA, WHICH IS REALLY COMPARABLE HERE, BUT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE CEF.

CEF HAS REALLY STRONG GOVERNANCE, ESPECIALLY AFTER BEING AROUND FOR 20 YEARS.

YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE BYLAWS AND THEY'RE INCORPORATED AND THEY DO AUDITS OR HAVE AUDITS DONE SO THAT THEY KNOW THAT THE MONEY IS BEING COLLECTED AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE SCHOOL.

SO I KNOW ALL THAT DETAIL IS GOING TO COME ALONG LATER, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS YOU'RE DOING FUNDRAISING AND AS YOU'RE SETTING UP A STRUCTURE, THAT IT'S ALL KIND OF DEFINED.

SO AS YOU PASS THE BATON ON TO PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE THE BATON FROM YOU, THAT IT'S DOCUMENTED AND YOU HAVE PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE, AND JUST ON THE UNIVERSITY SUBJECT, I THINK IT'S REALLY COOL THAT UNIVERSITIES ARE INTERESTED.

NOW, I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T WANT TO LIKE ALIGN WITH ONE UNIVERSITY.

I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD BE PARTNERING WITH LOTS OF UNIVERSITIES AND THAT WOULD EVEN HELP KIDS GET KIND OF INTRODUCED TO OR IN CONNECTION WITH SOME UNIVERSITIES WHERE THEY MAY WANT TO GO, AND I AGREE WITH PRESIDENT BRYAN THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE FOCUS SHOULD PROBABLY BE HIGHLY ON TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITIES.

NOW, I DON'T I MEAN, I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO HAVING PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER UNIVERSITIES, BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE A REALLY GOOD DIRECTION TO GO.

SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL THE WORK AND I'D LOVE TO.

I HOPE YOU'LL KEEP US POSTED AND KEEP US UPDATED.

YOU KIND OF WENT THROUGH THE NEXT STEPS THAT YOU HAVE GOING ON, BUT I WASN'T CLEAR.

I'LL JUST ASK ONE QUESTION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT OUR ADMINISTRATION ALIGNED WITH CONNECTED WITH SETTING KIND OF IN YOUR LEADERSHIP OR ADVISORY TYPE OF POSITION.

HOW WILL HOW ARE YOU GUYS I KNOW YOU'RE ALREADY CONNECTED WITH THEM, BUT IS THERE ALREADY LIKE A PERSON THAT IS AN, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN THAT ROLE OR YOU'RE GOING TO BE SELECTING ONE OR THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME INPUT ABOUT WHO THE PROPER PERSON IS FOR YOU TO BE CONNECTED WITH.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE SURE YOU STAY CONNECTED WITH OUR ADMINISTRATORS? SO EXCELLENT QUESTION, AND LET ME START OUT TALKING ABOUT THE FINANCIAL QUESTION.

TRANSPARENCY IS GOING TO BE THE UNDERLYING BEDROCK FOUNDATION OF EVERYTHING WE DO.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE NOBODY EVER HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WAY WE RAISE AND DISTRIBUTE FUNDS.

SECONDLY, THE REMARK ABOUT TEXAS TECH WAS ONLY BECAUSE MY BOY WAS THERE.

I'M THIRD GENERATION AGGIE.

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK? SO.

SO THAT SHOULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, AND AS FAR AS WE FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT QUITE APPROPRIATE TO EVOLVE THIS COMMITTEE TO THAT POINT, IT'S A LITTLE PRESUMPTUOUS ON OUR PART BECAUSE WE KIND OF NEED TO GET FEELINGS BACK FROM THE SCHOOL TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW THEY WANT TO SET UP THOSE [INAUDIBLE] THOSE LINES OF COMMUNICATION.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, I THINK SO.

IF I CAN ADD, THOUGH, THE IDEA IS AND IF WE JUST GO BACK TO THE GOVERNANCE SLIDE.

SO THE IDEA IS THE INITIAL FOUNDING BOARD WOULD CONSIST OF THE CISD FACULTY ADVISOR, WHICH KIM HAS STEPPED UP INTO THAT ROLE, AND THEN THE ADVISORY BOARD WOULD BE SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, SUCH AS GUY, MYSELF, KIM, AND THEN A MEMBER OF THE CISD SCHOOL BOARD, AS WELL AS A MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN ALSO SEVERAL STUDENTS.

SO THAT WAY WE GET GOOD REPRESENTATION ACROSS THE BOARD AND WE STAY CONNECTED TO YOU AT ALL TIMES FOR SURE.

EXCELLENT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, I'LL SAY ONE THING.

I JUST WANTED TO PARTNER WITH WHAT ALEX SAID.

BEING ON THE STRATEGIC PLANNING COMMITTEE.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT, SO IT'S REALLY EXCITING THAT YOU ALREADY HAD A VISION FOR IT AND THEN EVERYTHING ALIGNED FOR YOU ALL TO ACTUALLY GET IT ON PAPER.

SO THAT'S SUPER EXCITING, AND I LOVED HOW YOU ADDED IN KIND OF A VISION FOR UPPERCLASSMEN TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER IN, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO START SEEING THIS AND THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIKE BASIL AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIKE, OH MAN, WE JUST TOTALLY LOST AN OPPORTUNITY.

SO I THINK THAT'S COOL THAT YOU ALL ARE ALREADY THINKING ABOUT HOW THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS TOO, AND SOUTHLAKE FOUNDATION JUST PUT ON DIDN'T THEY JUST PUT ON A YOUNG ENTREPRENEURS AND THERE WERE SO MANY YOUNG KIDS THAT CAME IN THERE.

SO I JUST, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW WE'RE MISSING AND IT'S VERY NEEDED AND IT'S VERY EXCITING.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ALL OF YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU BOTH. REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, EVERYONE. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM SIX B NEW ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM AND 2022-23 STAAR DATA PREVIEW.

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HOW ARE Y'ALL? GOOD.

ALLEN'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ME REAL QUICK.

PERFECT. AWESOME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE AGAIN.

I AM LESLIE RUSSELL.

I AM THE DIRECTOR OF ACCOUNTABILITY ASSESSMENT AND TEAMS, AND I'M GOING TO JUST TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TONIGHT TO GO OVER OUR ACCOUNTABILITY REFRESH FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS, HOW THAT IMPACTS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT LATER ON THIS MONTH WHEN OUR ACCOUNTABILITY RATINGS COME OUT AND WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH OUR STAAR RESULTS FROM THE SPRING.

SO WITH THE ACCOUNTABILITY, THE REASON THE STATE PUT THAT INTO PLACE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MEASURE WHAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE.

IF WE'RE NOT MEASURING WHERE OUR KIDS ARE, THEN WE NEVER KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING.

JUST LIKE ANY TYPE OF GOAL SETTING, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE, YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO REACH YOUR GOALS, AND THAT'S ALL THE ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM DOES.

IT PROVIDES US THE GOALS SO WE KNOW WHERE WE NEED TO REACH.

THE CURRENT SYSTEM WAS SET UP THE A-F WAS DESIGNED FIVE YEARS AGO, AND IT WAS DESIGNED IN ORDER TO HELP ENSURE THAT EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS COULD ACHIEVE AN A RATING, THAT EVERY SCHOOL COULD CONTINUE TO GROW AND ACHIEVE, THAT THERE WERE RELIABLE MEASURES THAT WERE STUDENTS IN THE DISTRICT WERE MEASURED FROM MULTIPLE POINTS AND THAT THE SYSTEM WAS STATIC FOR FIVE YEARS.

IF YOU REMEMBER, PRIOR TO THAT, THE A-F RATINGS, EVERYTHING WAS CHANGING EVERY YEAR, AND I WAS A CLASSROOM TEACHER AT THE TIME, AND IT WAS HARD ON US AS TEACHERS IF WE NEVER KNOW WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO SHOOT TO AND AIM TO, AND THEN IT WAS ALWAYS AFTER THE FACT.

WE'RE LIKE, IT'S A CONSTANTLY MOVING TARGET.

IT WAS VERY FRUSTRATING.

SO THE A-F WAS A REALLY GOOD SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE THAT, ALL RIGHT, WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO, AND THEN EVERY FIVE YEARS IT'S REFRESHED AND UPDATED.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE BUMPING THAT BAR UP EVERY FIVE YEARS.

SO WITH THE NEW REFRESH, IT'S TIME FOR IT.

IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING FIVE YEARS.

LOTS OF CHANGE WITHIN OUR SCHOOL CLIMATES.

SO ONE OF THE BIG COMPONENTS IS THAT THE STATE HAS UPDATED THE CUT POINTS SPECIFICALLY FOR CCMR RATINGS.

WHAT HAS HAPPENED ACROSS THE STATE IS ALL OF THE SCHOOLS HAVE RAISED TO THE LEVEL THAT THE BAR WAS AT.

SO THE STATE IS RAISING THAT BAR AGAIN AND THE CCMR ARE THE COLLEGE CAREER MILITARY READINESS INDICATORS.

SO OUR STUDENTS THAT ARE EARNING DUAL CREDIT CLASSES, PASSING THEIR ACTS, THEIR SATS, ENLISTING IN THE MILITARY, THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO HELP PREPARE THEM FOR TO BE FUTURE READY.

THEY HAVE ALSO REFRESHED WHAT SOME OF THOSE CCMR INDICATORS ARE.

THE USE TO THE STUDENTS WERE ABLE TO GET CERTAIN CERTIFICATIONS JUST BY GOING IN AND TAKING A TEST WITHOUT WITHOUT LEARNING ANY OF THE CONTENT AREA.

THEY COULD JUST GO IN, AND SO NOW THE STATE IS SAYING, NO, YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME OF THESE CLASSES AND THE COURSEWORK UNDER YOUR BELT BEFORE YOU CAN TAKE THAT CERTIFICATION.

SO AGAIN, THEY'RE RAISING THE STANDARDS, THEY'VE IMPROVED THE ABILITY TO RECOGNIZE GROWTH.

THEY'RE ADDING IN SOME DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN SHOW GROWTH WITHIN OUR STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT.

THEY ARE NARROWING THE FOCUS WITHIN DOMAIN THREE, WHICH IS ALL OUR STUDENT GROUPS OF THE ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE BETWEEN OUR ALL STUDENTS GROUPS AND THEN OUR SMALLER STUDENT GROUPS. THEY'VE CHANGED THE OVERALL DISTRICT RATING METHODOLOGY.

SO IN THE PAST, ALL STUDENTS WERE KIND OF IN ONE BUCKET AND THE DISTRICT WAS AN AVERAGE OF EVERY KID IN ONE BUCKET, AND THEY ARE CHANGING IT TO WHERE WE WILL HAVE A DISTRICT RATING BASED ON THE AVERAGES OF THE CAMPUSES.

SO CAMPUS SIZE OF ENROLLMENT HAVE A HIGHER WEIGHTED VERSUS A SMALLER ENROLLMENT CAMPUS.

KIM'S THINKING ABOUT THAT ONE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY.

WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT? I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY CHOSE TO DO THAT.

THAT MAKES NO SENSE, AND I THINK IT SAID THEY WANT A CAMPUS THAT HAS MORE STUDENTS IS GOING TO BE HELD MORE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE OVERALL DISTRICT VERSUS A SMALLER CAMPUS.

THAT COULD BE AN A RATING THAT BRINGING THE WHOLE DISTRICT UP WHEN IT'S A SMALLER AMOUNT OF KIDS.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE UNDERSTOOD FROM IT AT LEAST.

THERE IS A NEW SYSTEM FOR ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION ACCOUNTABILITY CAMPUSES, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE IN OUR DISTRICT, AND THEN THERE ARE BEING MORE TRANSPARENT WITH THE PERFORMANCE DATA ON THE TEXASSCHOOLS.GOV AND THE PERFORMANCE REPORTING WEBSITE.

SO THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO HELP MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS MORE UNDERSTANDING OF THE SYSTEMS. SO LAST YEAR WE HAD OUR RATINGS.

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LAST YEAR'S ACCOUNTABILITY FOR 2022 CANNOT BE COMPARED AS APPLES TO APPLES WITH 2023, AND THEY'VE EVEN SAID DISTRICTS HAVE GONE TO AND SAID, WILL YOU PLEASE RELEASE OUR 23 RATINGS USING 22 METHODOLOGY? AND THEY SAID WE CAN'T.

THERE IS NO WAY TO DO IT BECAUSE WE'VE COMPLETELY CHANGED THE METHODOLOGY.

SO THEY ARE DOING, THOUGH, IS THEY ARE GIVING US THE 2022 RATINGS WITH THE NEW METHODOLOGY.

SO WE WILL HAVE A WAY TO SEE HOW WE'VE DONE WITH THE NEW METHODOLOGY, JUST NOT WITH OUR OLD UNDERSTANDING, AND THOSE ARE GOING TO BE CALLED WHAT THEY CALL WHAT IF RATINGS.

SO THESE WHAT IF RATINGS, WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN ABLE TO DO IS TAKE LAST YEAR'S 2020 SCORES.

SO THAT FIRST COLUMN THERE IS OUR 2020 SCORES WITH OUR 2020 ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THE NEXT COLUMN IS THE 2020 SCORES WITH THE 2023 ACCOUNTABILITY.

SO YOU'LL NOTICE OUR STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT WOULD GO DOWN SLIGHTLY.

DOMAIN TWO IS SCHOOL PROGRESS.

THAT WOULD GO DOWN SLIGHTLY WITH GROWTH GOING DOWN SLIGHTLY.

RELATIVE PERFORMANCE IS HOW WE'RE DOING WITH COMPARED TO OTHER ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED STUDENTS COMPARED TO OTHER DISTRICTS WITH THE SAME RATIOS FOR ACCOUNTABILITY.

THEY TAKE THE BEST OF DOMAIN 1 OR 2.

SO WE WOULD STILL OUR STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT IS DRIVING EVERYTHING WITHIN OUR ACCOUNTABILITY HERE IN CARROLL.

SO WE KEEP THAT 95 THE CLOSING THE GAPS WOULD BRING US TO A 95 AND OVERALL WE WOULD BE AT 95 DISTRICT.

TINY BIT OF A DECREASE VERSUS THE PRIOR YEARS.

THE COMMISSIONER HAS SAID THAT OVERALL DISTRICTS WILL STILL BE ROUGHLY IN THE SAME GRADE BAND.

A DISTRICTS WILL MOST LIKELY STILL BE A DISTRICTS.

B DISTRICTS WILL MOST LIKELY BE B DISTRICTS.

WE ARE LIKELY GOING TO REMAIN AN A DISTRICT JUST A LOWER A DISTRICT.

SO, MISS RUSSELL, LET ME COMMENT ON THIS.

SO ON THIS SLIDE, THOUGH, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THE MIDDLE COLUMN IS NOT OUR CURRENT RESULTS.

IT'S WHAT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN.

IT'S WHAT 2022 WOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER THE 23 METHODOLOGY? THAT IS CORRECT. SO WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE'VE GONE FROM A 97 THIS THIS PAST YEAR TO A 95 OR FROM A 100 DISTRICT TO A 95 DISTRICT.

THIS IS NOW APPLYING THE CURRENT METHODOLOGY TO LAST YEAR.

YES, YES. OUR NEW METHODOLOGY TO 2022 SCORES.

SO THE PRIOR YEAR SCORES.

SO WHAT THE STATE IS GOING TO DO IS THEY WILL RELEASE THAT THE METHODOLOGY WITH OUR CURRENT 2023 AND THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US OUR RATINGS AND THEN THEY WILL ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO COMPARE IT TO HOW WE REALLY DID SO WE CAN TAKE THOSE WHAT IF SCORES, COMPARE THEM TO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US HERE AT THE END OF THIS MONTH TO SEE DID WE REALLY PROGRESS? BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T COMPARE A 95 TO A 97.

THAT'S THE SAME SCORES JUST WITH DIFFERENT CALCULATIONS.

SO THEY WILL GIVE US A WAY TO COMPARE THESE 90.

THESE NEW SCORES WITH WHAT WE'RE GETTING THIS YEAR.

WE ARE SET TO RECEIVE THOSE AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.

SO SEPTEMBER 26TH IS WHEN WE SHOULD BE RECEIVING RECEIVING OUR ACCOUNTABILITY RATINGS FROM THE STATE.

SO IF IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES WITH OUR ACCOUNTABILITY, IT'S ALSO NOT APPLES TO APPLES WITH OUR TEST.

SO THIS IS KIND OF A BIG YEAR FOR STATE TESTING.

NOT ONLY ARE WE GETTING A REFRESH ON THE ACCOUNTABILITY SIDE, WE'VE HAD A STAAR TEST REDESIGN, AND WITH THAT REDESIGN, IT WAS REQUIRED TO BE ONLINE FOR ALL STUDENTS ACROSS THE STATE.

THERE WERE PAPER VERSIONS OF THE ONLINE TEST.

HOWEVER, IT WAS STILL AN ONLINE TEST.

THERE ARE NEW INTERACTIVE ITEM TYPES.

THERE ARE SHORTENED SHORT AND LONG WRITTEN RESPONSES AT EVERY GRADE LEVEL FOR READING AND SHORT WRITTEN RESPONSES FOR ALL SCIENCE TESTS, SOCIAL STUDIES TESTS, AND THERE ARE ALSO SHORT WRITTEN RESPONSES IN ALL THE READING TESTS.

SO ONLY THE MATH TESTS DID NOT HAVE A WRITING COMPONENT.

STUDENTS EARNED PARTIAL POINTS OR THEY EARNED MULTIPLE POINTS FOR CERTAIN ITEM TYPES.

SO EACH QUESTION WASN'T JUST ONE WEIGHTING.

SOME ITEMS WERE WEIGHTED HEAVIER THAN OTHERS, AND NOT ONLY THAT, THEY RECALIBRATED ALL OF THE SCORING, SO STUDENTS STILL SCORED ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF STUDENTS, SAME PERCENTAGE SCORED APPROACHES, MEETS OR MASTERS ACROSS THE STATE.

HOWEVER, HOW THEY GOT THERE MAY HAVE CHANGED BECAUSE THE TEST IS DIFFERENT.

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SO NEW ACCOUNTABILITY, NEW TEST.

THE RESULTS CANNOT BE COMPARED YEAR TO YEAR.

IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION.

SO I RECOMMEND THAT WE USE THIS YEAR AS A BASELINE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OF ACCOUNTABILITY.

SO WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU HOW SOME OF THESE ITEMS CHANGED.

PRIOR TO THIS YEAR.

THIRD GRADERS DID NOT HAVE A WRITING COMPONENT ON THEIR TEST.

THIS YEAR THEY DID.

THIS IS A SCREENSHOT OF WHAT THE WRITTEN TEST THE WRITTEN PORTION LOOKED LIKE.

THERE IS A WRITING OR SORRY READING COMPONENT, SO KIDS HAD TO READ A PASSAGE AND THEN ANSWER A QUESTION LIKE A READING RESPONSE ABOUT THAT PASSAGE, AND THEN IT WAS AGAIN EMBEDDED.

SO THEY WERE TYPING INTO THE PLATFORM.

THE THERE WAS ALSO YOU'LL SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THAT IS WHAT THE STAAR TEST FROM 2022, JUST A TYPICAL MULTIPLE CHOICE ITEM WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE, AND THE STAAR 23 TEST, THEY MAY HAVE HAD TO CHOOSE MULTIPLE ITEMS TO JUST TO SAY WHICH ONES OF THESE WERE THE CORRECT ANSWERS.

SO THEY HAVE MORE THAN ONE RESPONSE.

FOR SOME OF THE MATH AND SCIENCE QUESTIONS THERE WERE DROP DOWNS.

SO AGAIN, NOT JUST A MULTIPLE CHOICE QUESTION, BUT THEY USE THE CHART, AND THEN THOSE WHEN YOU CLICK ON THE BOX, IT WOULD GIVE A LIST OF OPTIONS.

THERE WERE EQUATION EDITORS AS A MATH TEACHER, FORMER MATH TEACHER.

THE FACT THAT THE KIDS ACTUALLY HAD TO DESIGN EQUATIONS, DESIGN GRAPHS AND CREATE EQUATIONS ACTUALLY MADE MY MATH HEART PRETTY HAPPY BECAUSE THAT STUFF THAT WE DID IN THE CLASSROOM AND THAT REALLY DID SHOW THE UNDERSTANDING MORE, BUT IT'S HARDER.

IT'S DEFINITELY MORE DIFFICULT AND MORE RIGOROUS FOR OUR KIDS, AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A SOCIAL STUDIES TEST WHERE, AGAIN, INSTEAD OF A MULTIPLE CHOICE FOR ITEMS, THEY HAVE TO USE THEIR DIAGRAM AND CHOOSE THREE OF THE CORRECT ANSWERS THAT ARE IN THAT DIAGRAM, AND THEN THIS IS PROBABLY WHAT I WOULD BELIEVE IS THE MOST RIGOROUS TYPE OF QUESTION THAT WAS ON THE TEST.

THIS IS CALLED A MULTI-PART QUESTION.

SO STUDENTS WERE GIVEN A QUESTION.

THEY HAD TO CHOOSE AN ANSWER, AND THEN PART B, THEY HAD TO JUSTIFY THAT CHOICE.

THIS IS WHY THEY NEEDED TO GIVE MORE CREDIT.

SO THIS TYPE OF QUESTION HAD MORE WEIGHT TO IT VERSUS SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT WAS MULTI-PART.

SO HOW DID WE DO COMPARED TO SOME OF OUR DISTRICTS THAT WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT? WE ACTUALLY DID VERY WELL ACROSS THE BOARD.

WE OUT OF THE 60 MEASURES, THERE WERE OVER.

OVER HALF OF THEM.

WE WERE ABOVE EANES AND HIGHLAND PARK ISDS WITHIN THE APPROACHES MEETS OR MASTERS CATEGORIES.

SO WE WERE STICKING WITH THEM, NOTICED SOME OF THEM ARE VERY CLOSE, BUT SOME OF OUR OTHER ONES ARE CONSIDERABLE GAINS.

OUR FIFTH GRADE MATH HAD OVER TEN HAD 10% BETTER VERSUS THE OTHER TWO DISTRICTS YOU'LL SEE THERE, AND EVEN THAT SEVENTH GRADE MATH, EIGHTH GRADE ACROSS THE BOARD IN ALL OF OUR SUBJECT AREAS DID REALLY WELL.

SEE THAT EVEN LISTED HERE.

THESE ARE OUR END, OF COURSE, SUBJECT AREAS.

SO OUR ALGEBRA CONTINUES TO BE VERY STRONG.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR MAKING GAINS IN OUR ENGLISH ONE AND ENGLISH TWO, WHICH WE DID, BUT YOU'LL SEE WE'RE STILL REMAINING PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER DISTRICTS IN THESE AREAS AS WELL. BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO STAAR ALTERNATE TWO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS WITH OUR STAAR THREE THROUGH EIGHT OR EOCS? MISS RUSSELL? YES, SIR.

MAY WANT TO WAIT TO HEAR ABOUT IT LATER IF YOU'RE GOING TO COVER IT, BUT WHILE YOU WERE PRESENTING THE STAAR RESULTS WITH US COMPARED TO OTHER DISTRICTS, I WAS CURIOUS WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT CAMPUS RATINGS A FEW MINUTES AGO, IF WE APPLIED THE CRITERIA TO LAST YEAR, OBVIOUSLY IT LOOKED LIKE ACROSS THE BOARD OUR RESULTS WOULD HAVE GONE DOWN, AND THAT'S VERY CONCERNING TO ME PERSONALLY, BUT IT'S KIND OF RELATIVE.

I MEAN, IF YOU DID OR HAVE YOU DONE SIMILAR COMPARISONS IN OTHER DISTRICTS, DID ALL THE SCORES ACROSS THE STATE GO DOWN, OR IS THERE SOME REASON THAT OURS WOULD HAVE GONE DOWN WHEN OTHERS DID NOT? I APPRECIATE SEEING THE STAAR RESULTS, BUT I CAN'T REALLY TELL WITH CAMPUS RATINGS, WITH THE ACCOUNTABILITY.

YES, THEY ARE PROJECTING THAT OTHER DISTRICTS WILL ALSO BE SEEING A DECREASE.

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WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT. IT'S REALLY THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT COMPONENTS TO THE METHODOLOGY THAT I'VE EVEN BEEN LOOKING AT, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WOULD BE AT, AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO COME UP WITH ONE OF THOSE.

IT'S NOT A STRAIGHT PROCESS.

LET ME JUMP IN THERE, TOO. I WANT TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE RESULTS.

WE DO NOT HAVE. SO WHEN YOU SAY IT'S CONCERNING THAT THEY WENT DOWN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY INDICATION THAT OUR RESULTS HAVE GONE DOWN.

WELL, THEY HAVEN'T GONE DOWN, BUT IF WE APPLIED THE CRITERIA TO LAST YEAR OR LAST YEAR, THAT'S JUST SHOWING SO THAT YOU CAN SEE.

SO WE'LL GET RESULTS THIS YEAR AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IF OUR 22 RESULTS HAD USED THE SAME METHODOLOGY, THEN WE CAN SEE DID WE IMPROVE OR DID WE DECREASE.

THERE'S NO INDICATION RIGHT NOW ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BECAUSE THE RESULTS HAVEN'T BEEN RELEASED.

YEAH, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC THAT THERE'S NO INDICATION OUR RESULTS WENT DOWN AT THIS POINT, JUST BASED ON FOR THE PRESENT, IT'S JUST APPLYING THE CRITERIA TO THE PAST. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, GRADING US HARDER.

RIGHT, AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE THE CCMR MEASURES HAVE INCREASED AND SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE MORE OF YOUR GRADUATES HIT THOSE RATINGS IN ORDER TO HIT THOSE HIGHER LEVELS, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS THAT IT'S KIND OF ADJUSTING THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

ANYTHING ELSE? MISS RUSSELL? YEAH. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH YOUNGER AGE STUDENTS, THEY DON'T WANT THEIR KIDS TO BE ON DEVICES ANY MORE THAN THEY ALREADY ARE AT HOME.

WHEN I SEE A THIRD GRADE LONG FORM WRITTEN, I'M SORRY, BUT DOES THAT STUDENT NOT NEED TO KNOW HOW TO TYPE TO BE TO HAVE A GOOD ANSWER? I MEAN, ISN'T THAT PUT KIND OF STRESS ON THE TYPING SKILLS OF THIRD GRADERS IF THERE'S A LONG FORM WRITTEN OR ARE THEY WRITING IT ON A TABLET? IS THERE ANOTHER WAY? AT THIS POINT, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS ANOTHER WAY FOR THEM TO ENTER IT IN.

THEY CAN WRITE THEIR AND ANGELA MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THIS AS WELL WITH HOW THEY'RE PREPARING OUR THIRD GRADERS IN THE CLASSROOM, BUT THERE IS A WAY WHERE THE STUDENTS CAN HANDWRITE THEIR RESPONSES AND THEN TYPE THEM INTO THE SYSTEM.

IS THERE ANYTHING? STARTING IN SECOND GRADE, OUR STUDENTS LEARN CURSIVE.

WE CONTINUE CURSIVE IN THIRD, FOURTH AND FIFTH GRADE.

SO WE TEACH THE STUDENTS CURSIVE AND THEN THEY DO TYPE THE RESPONSE ON THE IPAD AND THEY'RE ALSO WORKING ON TYPING SKILLS, BUT WE YEAH, WE'RE BOTH BOTH COMPONENTS IN THIRD GRADE, SO IT'S A LOT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE, INCLUDING PRESIDENT BRYAN, HAVE TALKED TO OUR STATE LEGISLATORS AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, KIND OF GREAT DISAPPOINTMENT.

WE BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE OF THIS TEST, ALL THESE TESTS HAVING TO BE ON DEVICES, THIS IS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE FROM OUR STATE LEGISLATORS. WHEN WE WERE DOWN IN AUSTIN, WE HAD SOME OF OUR PRINCIPALS JOIN US AND THEY WERE EXCELLENT, AND THEIR COMMENTS AND I WON'T CALL THEM OUT BY NAME, BUT THEY LITERALLY LOOKED RIGHT AT A STATE LEGISLATOR AND SAID, WE THINK PAPER IS ABSOLUTELY FINE.

CAN YOU GUYS GIVE ME YOUR OPINION? I DON'T CARE HOW OPINIONATED IT IS.

I'M ASKING FOR YOUR OPINION ABOUT THIS PAPER VERSUS DEVICE BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE ANY EXTRA FUNDS TO KEEP THIS SPENDING ON DEVICES, AND IF THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, A TEST THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE, AND IF YOU TALK ABOUT NOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIRD GRADERS HAVING TO HAVE TYPING SKILLS, I'M REALLY CONCERNED. WELL, IN MY OWN DAUGHTER IS A THIRD GRADER WITH DYSLEXIA AND SO I COMPLETELY, 100% UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN.

HOWEVER, I HAVE SEEN THE TWO DIFFERENT ASSESSMENTS AND THERE ARE ACCOMMODATIONS THAT ARE ALLOWABLE WITHIN THE ONLINE TEST THAT AREN'T AVAILABLE ON A PAPER FORMAT.

SUCH AS? SUCH AS AND IT'S A LOT FOR STUDENTS THAT HAVE SOME SOME LEARNING DISABILITIES OR DIFFICULTIES WITH LANGUAGE.

SO IF A STUDENT AND THERE'S DIFFERENT COMPONENTS CALLED CONTENT AND LANGUAGE SUPPORTS AND WHAT THOSE DO IS THERE ARE CERTAIN WORDS OR PHRASES WITHIN THE TEST OR EVEN THE QUESTIONS THAT THE TEST THE STUDENT CAN CLICK ON, AND IF IT'S A CERTAIN WORD, IT WILL THEN SHOW THEM A PICTURE OF THAT WORD. SO IF THEY HAVE TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING OR TROUBLE READING, THEY'D BE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WORD IS.

THEY CAN CLICK ON IT, OH, THIS IS A TRACTOR.

WELL, I KNOW WHAT THAT IS, AND NOW I CAN MAKE MEANING OF THIS TEXT AND I CAN UNDERSTAND IT BETTER.

THAT'S NOT ANYTHING THEY COULD HAVE DONE WITH A PAPER VERSION.

OTHER THINGS THAT IT DOES IS ON REALLY CHUNKY WORD PROBLEMS THAT HAVE 3 OR 4 SENTENCES.

A LOT OF TIMES AS A MATH STUDENT, THOSE WOULD BE VERY CONFUSING FOR OUR STUDENTS WITH READING DIFFICULTIES.

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SO IT MAKES THE QUESTION EASIER TO UNDERSTAND OF WHAT IS ALL THIS INFORMATION IN HERE THAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IN ORDER TO ANSWER THE QUESTION? MISS BONNER'S SHAKING HER HEAD, DO YOU LIKE THOSE KIND OF HELPING HANDS, IF YOU WOULD, MISS BONNER? OKAY. I WOULD AGREE THAT THE CONTENT LANGUAGE SUPPORTS THAT CAN BE BUILT INTO THE ONLINE ASSESSMENT CANNOT BE MATCHED.

THEY JUST CAN'T BE MATCHED WITH A PAPER ASSESSMENT.

OKAY. OKAY. EXCELLENT, AND THEN THE OTHER BIG CONCERN WITH OUR COMMUNITY HAS IS THE COLLECTION OF DATA, BECAUSE THIS IS ONLINE, WHAT ASSURANCES DO WE HAVE THAT OUR KIDS DATA IS NOT BEING COLLECTED? FOR EXAMPLE, SAY THAT STUDENT WHO HAS THAT LEARNING DISABILITY, THEY MIGHT GO INTO A SPECIAL BUCKET OF DATA THAT IS THEN OFF AND SOLD TO ANOTHER COMPANY, RIGHT? YEAH, AND WE DO WORK, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO HAS AGREEMENTS WITH CAMBIUM, WHO IS THE TESTING VENDOR, AND I CAN SAY WHEN WE HAD OUR PAPER ANSWER DOCUMENTS, THAT SAME DATA WAS SUBMITTED TO THE STATE.

WE STILL CODED OUR STUDENTS THAT WERE SPECIAL ED WERE STILL CODED AND SUBMITTED TO THE STATE ON THE PAPER BASED TEST, JUST AS THEY ARE ON THE ONLINE TEST.

WHAT HAS HAPPENED, THOUGH, IS WE ACTUALLY CAN MAKE SURE THE DATA IS MORE CLEAN AND MORE SECURE WHEN WE ADD PAPER VERSIONS OF TESTS, AND BEFORE CAMBIUM TOOK OVER THE TESTING, WE HAD TO SUBMIT WITH THE PAPER, ANSWER DOCUMENTS, STUDENTS, SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS, AND I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE AWARE OF THAT AND THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED FOR THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED ANY LONGER.

WE NOW USE A MORE SECURE WHAT'S CALLED THE TSDS NUMBER, AND IT IS A UNIQUE IDENTIFIER SPECIALIZED FOR EVERY STUDENT, AND WHAT WE FOUND WITH THE PAPER ANSWER DOCUMENTS IS THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE WROTE THINGS WRONG, RIGHT? THEY JUST BUBBLED AN ANSWER BUCKET THE LITTLE NUMBER WRONG, AND THEN IT WAS SCANNED IN AND THEN STUDENTS DATA WAS WHAT WE CALL I CALLED IN MY WORLD BEING TANGLED.

SO ONE STUDENT'S PIECE OF DATA WAS NOW IDENTIFIED UNDER ANOTHER STUDENT BECAUSE SOMEONE IDENTIFIED THAT OTHER STUDENT'S SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER WRONG BECAUSE THEY BUBBLED SOMETHING ON AN ANSWER DOCUMENT WRONG.

THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN ANY LONGER BECAUSE OF OUR ONLINE SYSTEMS. SO IT IS MORE SAFE AND SECURE WITH MAKING SURE THAT OUR STUDENT DATA IS LOCKED DOWN FOR JUST THOSE STUDENTS.

GREAT, AND WHAT WAS THE NAME AGAIN OF THAT ID? THE TSDS NUMBER? AND THAT ACTUALLY STAYS CONSISTENT NO MATTER WHERE THEY GO ACROSS THE STATE.

WHEREAS THE S NUMBER OR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, THE OLD STATE IDENTIFIER CAN CHANGE BETWEEN DISTRICT TO DISTRICT.

IF PARENTS WANT TO PROVIDE THE SOCIAL SECURITY CARD OR NOT, AND THAT'S NON-PERSONAL IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION.

YES. YEAH SO IT'S COMPLETELY UNIQUE.

ASSIGNED BY THE STATE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

MISS RUSSELL, SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP ACCOMMODATIONS, IT WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO ASK, AND MISS BONNER MAY WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS, TOO.

I'M CURIOUS AND I DON'T IN ANY WAY WANT TO BE CRITICAL OF TECHNOLOGY.

WE ALL NEED TO EMBRACE TECHNOLOGY.

WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT ALL THE TIME.

I'M REALLY GLAD THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, AN OPTION TO UTILIZE TECHNOLOGY AND THE FEATURES OF TECHNOLOGY, INCLUDING CLICKING ON A WORD AND SEEING THE DEFINITION OR A PICTURE SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE READING OR WHAT YOU'RE BEING TESTED ON, BUT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE STUDENTS WITH WIDE RANGES OF SPECIAL NEEDS, AND, YOU KNOW, IN ALL TESTING ENVIRONMENTS, THERE'S ALWAYS OPPORTUNITIES FOR ACCOMMODATIONS BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE SIGHT ISSUES OR MOTOR SKILL ISSUES OR HEARING ISSUES, AND ONE OF THE CRITICISMS I HEARD LAST YEAR AS THEY WERE STARTING TO COMMUNICATE THE CHANGES TO THE STAAR TESTING WAS THAT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE OR NOT, SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO COMMENT ON IT, IS THAT THERE WAS NO WAY TO HAVE AN ACCOMMODATION FOR ANY KIND OF A SPECIAL NEED.

YOU JUST HAD TO TAKE IT ONLINE AND GET WHATEVER SCORES YOU GOT, BUT I WANT TO LIKE LEARN ABOUT IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ACCOMMODATIONS IF A STUDENT ISN'T ABLE TO TAKE THE TEST ONLINE? THERE IS. SO WE CAN ORDER PAPER VERSIONS OF THE ASSESSMENT.

LIKE I SAID, THOUGH, IT IS A PAPER VERSION OF THE ONLINE TEST.

SO SOME OF THESE DYNAMIC ITEM TYPES MAY LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT ON A PAPER VERSION OF THE TEST, WE HAD AN AUDITORY STUDENT WITH A HEARING DISABILITY THAT WASN'T ABLE THEIR IMPLANT WASN'T ABLE TO CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE AUDIO THAT WAS COMING THROUGH THE COMPUTER AND ACTUALLY WHAT THEY WERE ABLE TO SET UP WAS THE STUDENT.

ACTUALLY, THE PARENT SAID, WE STILL WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS DYNAMIC COMPONENTS.

HOW CAN WE DO THAT IN A DIFFERENT WAY? AND WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE SYSTEM AND THE VENDOR AND THE PARENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT STUDENT COULD TAKE THE ONLINE TEST, BUT STILL BE ABLE TO HEAR THE TEST IN A FUNCTIONAL WAY. THERE ARE PAPER VERSIONS.

IF WE DO HAVE STUDENTS WITH BRAILLE OR SOME OTHER NEEDS THAT WE CAN ORDER.

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THERE'S COLOR OVERLAYS FOR OUR STUDENTS THAT ARE DYSLEXIC.

THEY CAN CHANGE THE SCREEN COLOR.

STUDENTS CAN EVEN MAKE THE PRINT LARGER SO THAT AS THEY MOVE THROUGH THE TEST, IT'S COMPLETELY ALREADY ENLARGED AT THEIR SIZE SO THEY CAN SEE IT BETTER.

THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE WAYS.

MR. RUSSELL, WHEN I WAS SITTING IN CURRICULUM NIGHT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO FOR MY THIRD GRADER AND THE TEACHERS, HIS TEACHERS WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NEW CHANGES TO THE STAAR TEST FOR THIRD GRADE.

MY STOMACH DROPPED.

IT DROPPED FOR THEM AND IT DROPPED.

IT DROPPED FOR MY KID.

JUST THINKING MY SIXTH GRADER CAN'T EVEN TYPE.

THEY HAVEN'T EVEN HAD A TYPEWRITING CLASS.

SO TO THINK THAT A THIRD GRADER CAN ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I KNOW THERE ARE THIRD GRADERS THAT CAN, BUT IT WAS A HUGE IT JUST MADE MY MOUTH DROP, ACTUALLY, TO THINK THAT OUR KIDS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS AND OUR TEACHERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DOUBLE UP TO TEACH THEM HOW TO DO THIS STUFF VERY QUICKLY. HAVE YOU TALKED WITH TEACHERS TO SEE LIKE HOW THEY'RE FEELING ABOUT THESE CHANGES? ACTUALLY, YES. EVERY YEAR AFTER WE'VE GIVEN THE TEST AND WHEN I WAS IN MY PRIOR DISTRICT, WE HAVE BEEN GIVING THE ONLINE TEST SINCE IT WAS AVAILABLE.

SO MULTIPLE YEARS, AND ACTUALLY THE FEEDBACK FROM THE CAMPUSES AFTER EVERY TESTING SESSION HAS BEEN EXTREMELY POSITIVE.

THEY LIKE THAT IT'S A LESS STRESSFUL ENVIRONMENT ON TESTING DAY THAT THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO COUNT ALL OF THESE DOCUMENTS AND THEY MIGHT LOSE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.

THEY DON'T SEE THAT THE STUDENTS ARE STRESSED WITHIN THE WORK AND IT SEEMS THAT THE DAYS ARE GOING VERY SMOOTHLY.

SO THEY'VE HAD VERY POSITIVE INTERACTIONS WITH THE ASSESSMENTS WE DID OFFER LAST SPRING AND FALL TO ALL OF OUR STUDENTS.

WHAT WE CALL THE STATE PROVIDES AN INTERIM ASSESSMENT THAT IS IN THE ONLINE PLATFORM AND IT TESTS THE STUDENTS ON WHERE THEIR CONTENT KNOWLEDGE IS AT THAT POINT IN TIME AND REALLY OUR TEACHERS GAVE IT JUST AS A HERE WE WANT TO YOU JUST NEED TO PLAY AROUND IN THE SYSTEM.

YOU NEED TO SEE WHAT THESE FEATURES ARE, YOU NEED TO TOUCH IT, FEEL IT AND GET EXPERIENCE WITH THIS ONLINE TEST BEFORE YOU TAKE IT IN APRIL OR MAY FOR THE STAAR TEST, AND THEY SAID WHEN THEY DID THAT, IT REALLY DID HELP THE STUDENTS HAVE A MORE POSITIVE EXPERIENCE.

IS IT GOING TO HURT US? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE PART OF THE NEW RATING IS GOING TO BE IMPROVEMENT AND WE'RE USUALLY ALWAYS AT THE TOP OF THE TESTING.

IS IT GOING TO HURT US THAT WE'RE USUALLY AT THE TOP? NO, BECAUSE THAT RATING COMES FROM THE BETTER OF ACHIEVEMENT OR GROWTH, AND OUR ACHIEVEMENT CONTINUES TO BE HIGHER THAN THE GROWTH COMPONENT, AND SO I BELIEVE THAT WE'LL CONTINUE THE ACHIEVEMENT WILL CONTINUE TO PULL US UP.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

THE OTHER THING THAT THE TEST DOES ALLOW FOR OUR STUDENTS THAT HAVE WRITING DIFFICULTIES IS IT DOES ALLOW THEM TO HAVE AN TO SPEAK INTO THE TEST.

SO IF THEY HAVE REALLY DIFFICULT TIMES WITH TYPING OR HANDWRITING, THEY CAN DO A TEXT TO SPEECH OR A SPEECH TO TEXT AND THEY CAN SPEAK THEIR WRITING.

IS THAT SOMETHING THE TEACHER LETS THEM DO? OR THEY SAY THAT IT'S EMBEDDED INTO THE SYSTEM AND THERE ARE SOME QUALIFYING COMPONENTS FOR THAT ACCOMMODATION, BUT THAT ACCOMMODATION IS AVAILABLE FOR STUDENTS.

TAKE MY TEST. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AI, RIGHT? [CHUCKLING] MS. RUSSELL, I HAVE ONE QUICK ONE MORE QUESTION AND THEN I PROMISE THIS IS IT, BUT WHEN YOU SAW THESE CHANGES AND I'D LOVE MS. PEDDY AND ANYBODY ELSE'S OPINION, DID IT STRIKE YOU AS THAT THIS CHANGE WOULD BENEFIT A CERTAIN TYPE OF SCHOOL DISTRICT, MAYBE A LARGE URBAN SCHOOL DISTRICT OR SOMETHING? [INAUDIBLE] BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE THE SCORE AND THEN WHAT IF I'M JUST WONDERING HOW THIS IS POSSIBLY HELPING US, THE ACCOUNTABILITY CHANGES SPECIFICALLY.

IT LOOKS ALMOST LIKE IT'S SET UP FOR DIFFERENT TYPE OF DISTRICT, AND PLEASE BE AS OPINIONATED AS YOU POSSIBLY WANT TO BE [CHUCKLING] [INAUDIBLE] DO NOT LET HER BEING RECORDED.

DO NOT LET HER TALK.

FOR THE GROWTH COMPONENTS.

MOST DEFINITELY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO THINK THE STATE IS TRYING TO DO IS TO ALLOW DISTRICTS THAT MAYBE AREN'T HITTING THE ACHIEVEMENT LEVELS BUT COULD BENEFIT FROM GROWTH, EARN THOSE POINTS IN MORE WAYS BECAUSE THEY GOT WE KNOW THEY GOT RID OF F'S.

RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE GONE ON IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND I JUST FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WELL, THOSE F'S ARE COMING BACK, AND THEY DID SAY THAT IF YOU HAVE LIKE A CAMPUS THAT'S AN F RATING, THAT YOUR DISTRICT CANNOT BE AN A.

SO THEY THEY ARE HOLDING DISTRICTS MORE ACCOUNTABLE.

EXACTLY. OR CERTAIN LEVELS, BUT THEY ARE AN A BUT THEY ARE HOLDING THE WHOLE DISTRICT ACCOUNTABLE FOR EVEN ONE CAMPUS THAT IS LOW ACHIEVING.

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OKAY. SO SO THERE IS A KIND OF BIAS IN THE CREATION OF THESE.

CAN I GET SOME HEAD NODS IN THE CROWD? [CHUCKLING] I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. I THINK WE ALL ACKNOWLEDGE TRUSTEE YEAGER WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT OUR STAAR ALT TWO.

SO REMEMBER, THIS IS OUR TEST FOR A VERY CERTAIN SPECIFIC POPULATION OF OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS.

THIS TEST HAD NO ASSESSMENT CHANGES.

IT REMAINS A PAPER BASED TEST THAT THE TEACHERS WALK THROUGH THE STUDENTS WITH, AND THEY ARE TESTED INDIVIDUALLY.

IT IS A VERY SMALL POPULATION OF STUDENTS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS TEST.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DATA, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE DATA FOR ALL GRADE LEVELS AND SUBJECTS BECAUSE THERE'S TOO FEW STUDENTS, AND THEY CALL THAT MASKED DATA TO HELP PROTECT THE PRIVACY OF THOSE STUDENTS.

WE ALSO DECIDED TO LOOK AT THE DATA THIS YEAR AS A COHORT TYPE OF DATA BECAUSE THERE ARE SO FEW STUDENTS EVERY YEAR LOOKING AT THIRD GRADE FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT CAN CHANGE DRASTICALLY BASED ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS OR THE MEDICAL CONDITIONS OF THOSE STUDENTS.

SO ON THIS SLIDE, YOU WILL SEE IT'S VERY COLORFUL.

I KNOW, AND MS. BONNER AND I HAD WE WENT BACK AND FORTH AND EVEN DR.

LEDBETTER AND I ON SOME OF THIS, BUT REALLY, IT'S THE BEST WAY TO TELL THE STORY OF THIS PROGRESSION OF STUDENTS GOING THROUGH.

SO YOU'LL SEE A THIRD GRADER FROM 2022, THERE WERE TEN STUDENTS.

THEY WERE AT 60% ON THE READING, AND THEN THAT SAME GROUP OF STUDENTS AS FOURTH GRADERS WERE AT A 78%.

SO THEY GREW IN THAT PERFORMANCE, THAT BAND OF STUDENTS.

THEN AGAIN, YOU SEE A LOT OF BLANKS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF MASS DATA FROM VERY SMALL STUDENT POPULATIONS.

ONE GROUP THAT THEN DROPS STUDENTS FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT.

SO THE NEXT [INAUDIBLE] IS THAT PURPLE GROUP FROM THEIR CURRENT EIGHTH GRADERS AND HOW THEY'VE DONE OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, BUT WE'VE ALSO KNOW THAT GROUP OF STUDENTS HAS CHANGED OVER THAT TIME.

SO AGAIN, SMALL GROUPS OF STUDENTS CREATE LARGE CHANGES WITHIN OUR DATA SYSTEMS. THESE ARE THOSE SAME POPULATIONS OF STUDENTS WITHIN SCIENCE AND SOCIAL STUDIES, BUT THIS IS NOT TESTED EVERY YEAR.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE THE CONTINUATION BANDS LIKE WE SAW BEFORE AND THEN THE ENGLISH ALGEBRA AND BIOLOGY.

TYPICALLY, OUR STUDENTS TAKE AS FRESHMEN AND THEN THEY TAKE ENGLISH TWO AS SOPHOMORES FOR THE MOST PART, AND OUR STUDENTS CONTINUE TO MEET THOSE ACHIEVEMENT LEVELS THERE. SOMETHING THAT IS DIFFERENT, THAT IS COMING TO BE NEW THIS YEAR.

THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE.

SO FOR THE FEDERAL EXPECTATIONS, ONLY 1% OF THE STATE SHOULD.

STUDENTS SHOULD BE TAKING THIS STAAR ALTERNATE TWO TEST THE STATE LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION HAS EXCEEDED THAT 1% OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS SAID, WE WILL NOT HONOR YOUR EXEMPTION ANYMORE AND THEY ARE HOLDING THE STATE MORE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE LIMITS OF WHO ARE THE STUDENTS THAT SHOULD BE TAKING THIS ASSESSMENT.

SO THEY HAVE REALLY NARROWED DOWN THE CRITERIA FOR ELIGIBILITY AND WE WILL BE REVIEWING THAT WITH THE PRINCIPALS, THE DIAGNOSTICIANS, OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS, BUT THAT COULD MEAN THAT SOME OF THE STUDENTS THAT HAVE TAKEN THIS TEST WOULD NO LONGER BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS ASSESSMENT, AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THE STAAR TEST LIKE THEIR AGE APPROPRIATE PEERS.

SO WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE WE? ARE WE LESS THAN 1%.

WE ARE UNDER THE 1%, YES.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR THAT, MISS BONNER? DID I COVER THAT CORRECTLY? YOU COVERED THAT CORRECTLY. SO WE'RE AT 0.7%, SEVEN ISH PERCENT, 0.7.

HOWEVER, I DO ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL STILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT.

WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY'VE CHANGED THE PARTICIPATION REQUIREMENTS AND SO WE DON'T JUST GET TO CAP IT AT 1%.

THEY ALSO HAVE TO MEET PARTICIPATION REQUIREMENTS.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO CAP IT AT 1% WHO MEET THE PARTICIPATION REQUIREMENTS, AND I JUST BASED ON PREVIOUS YEARS PARTICIPATION REQUIREMENTS COMPARED TO THE NEW ONES, I DO ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL HAVE STUDENTS WHO WILL NO LONGER MEET PARTICIPATION REQUIREMENTS.

WHEN WILL WE KNOW THAT? DURING THEIR ARDS? YEAH, SO THE ARD COMMITTEES WILL REVIEW THE PARTICIPATION REQUIREMENTS AND MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AT ARD.

SO LIKE WE'RE TRAINING STAFF, WE'RE WORKING WITH STAFF ON HOW TO NAVIGATE THAT.

IT'S PRETTY CUT AND DRY.

SO SOMETIMES THEY DON'T GIVE US A LOT OF CUT AND DRY INFORMATION.

THEY ACTUALLY GAVE US SOMETHING THAT WAS PRETTY CUT AND DRY.

SO HAS THIS BEEN COMMUNICATED TO THE PARENTS ALREADY? IT HAS NOT BEEN COMMUNICATED TO PARENTS YET.

SO WHAT'S THAT PLAN? WELL, IT WILL BE PART OF THE JUST THE PLAN THAT WE ROLL OUT TO EVERYONE.

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OKAY, AND THEN WE WILL DISSEMINATE FROM THERE, BUT DEFINITELY BEFORE ARDS AND ALL THAT HAPPENS.

ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.

IT WILL BE PART OF A PARENT TRAINING, BUT BECAUSE IT TOUCHES SUCH A SMALL GROUP, IT WON'T BE PARENT TRAINING IN THE WAY THAT YOU GUYS ARE USED TO SEEING FROM OUR DEPARTMENT.

BECAUSE REALLY WE'RE TARGETING, LIKE I SAID, 0.7% OF OUR STUDENT POPULATION.

WE JUST DON'T WANT ANY SURPRISES OUT THERE.

OKAY. SO MISS BONNER, JUST ON THE KIND OF SOCIALIZATION OF THE IDEA AND THE TRAINING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, CAN YOU COMMENT ON TIMING? I ACTUALLY DON'T REMEMBER WHEN WE DO STAAR TESTING AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIMEFRAME IS, LET'S SAY, BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THAT TAKES PLACE.

IS THE TRAINING IN PLENTY ENOUGH TIME THAT ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO GET EXPOSURE AND GET TRAINING AND GET QUESTIONS ANSWERED? CAN YOU JUST COMMENT ON THE TIMING, ON THE PARTICIPATION REQUIREMENTS OR ON THE TEST ITSELF? WELL, I GUESS BOTH, BUT MAINLY THE TEST ITSELF.

SO ALL OF OUR TEACHERS WILL BE TRAINED AGAIN IN FEBRUARY.

SO LAST YEAR WE REDESIGNED THE WAY THAT WE TRAINED TEACHERS ON THE STAAR ALTERNATE TWO THEY ALL GET CONFIDENTIALITY TRAINING, BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WILL WORK WITH ALL TEACHERS ON TEST DESIGN.

SO WE TAKE THAT UNDERSTANDING, TEST DESIGN AND UNDERSTANDING INSTRUCTIONAL PEDAGOGY, AND WE HELP THE TEACHERS TO MAKE THE CONNECTION, AND SO THAT SO THAT WHEN THEY'RE WORKING WITH THEIR STUDENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WE DON'T QUOTE, QUOTE UNQUOTE, TEACH TO THE TEST, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PRESENT QUESTIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE WAY THAT THEY'RE PRESENTED ON THE TEST.

SO SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THE TEST USES WHAT THEY CALL A FIND STATEMENT.

SO OUR TEACHERS ARE LEARNING THAT WHEN YOU ASK THE QUESTION TO PAIR IT WITH A FINE STATEMENT.

SO THAT HELPS OUR STUDENTS GENERALIZE WHEN IT'S TEST TIME IN MARCH, THE WINDOW OPEN AFTER SPRING BREAK.

HOW DO YOU ASSESS THAT THE TRAINING HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED? DO THE TEACHERS AFTER THEY HAVE TRAINING, ARE THEY TESTED OR DO THEY GIVE SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT HOW WELL THE TRAINING WENT? OR HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THEY LEARNED WHAT THEY NEED TO KNOW TO ADMINISTER IT? SO THE FEEDBACK OVERWHELMINGLY WAS WELL RECEIVED LAST YEAR AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE THAT WE INCORPORATED THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO INCORPORATE IS THAT RATHER THAN JUST TRAIN THEM ON THE TEST, THEN WE GAVE THEM TESTS AND WE HAD THEM PRACTICE GIVING THE ASSESSMENT TO EACH OTHER AND WE TRIED TO EVEN CREATE SOME KIND OF REAL SCENARIOS.

SO WE KNOW THAT ALL OF OUR STUDENTS MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE AGREEABLE TO ASSESSMENT.

SO A TEACHER MAY HAVE HAD A STUDENT WHO DIDN'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE AND THEY HAD TO WORK AND ENGAGE AND TRY TO BRING THE STUDENT BACK, AND SO WE JUST CREATE THESE SCENARIOS AROUND GIVING THE ASSESSMENT.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT STUDENTS, THEY HAVE TO ONLY COMPLETE WHAT'S CALLED A CLUSTER OF QUESTIONS BEFORE THEY CAN STOP AND A CLUSTER CONSISTS OF FOUR QUESTIONS, AND SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING WE'VE REALLY TALKED TO OUR TEACHERS ABOUT.

IF OUR STUDENTS ARE SAYING THAT AFTER FOUR QUESTIONS, THEY'RE GETTING TIRED, DON'T PUSH BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT MEANS THEY HAVE TO ANSWER FOR MORE, AND SO IT'S JUST THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND THOSE KIND OF CONVERSATIONS THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD IN THE PAST THAT WE STARTED WITH LAST YEAR AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, MISS RUSSELL.

THANK YOU, MISS BONNER. APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO THE LAST AGENDA ITEM IS ITEM SIX C DISCUSSION REGARDING 2023-2024 RECAPTURE PAYMENT.

I'LL BEGIN THIS DISCUSSION WITH REMINDING EVERYONE THAT IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR, THIS BOARD PASSED A RESOLUTION APPEALING TO THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE TO COMPEL THE TEXAS COMPTROLLER OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTS AND THE TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY TO DELINEATE SPECIFICALLY THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS COLLECTED IN RECAPTURED FUNDING ARE DIRECTLY SPENT IN MEETING THE GOAL OF WEALTH EQUALIZATION.

IT FURTHER DIRECTS OUR SUPERINTENDENT TO ENSURE A COPY OF THE RESOLUTION IS SENT TO THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EACH OF OUR STATE SENATOR AND REPRESENTATIVES WHO REPRESENT CARROLL ISD.

THE TEXAS COMPTROLLER AND THE COMMISSIONER OF THE TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY.

QUICK QUESTION, DR.

LEDBETTER, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSE FROM THE PARTIES I JUST NAMED? THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU, DR.

LEDBETTER. SO I'LL MAKE A FEW COMMENTS, THEN I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

AS A TAXING AUTHORITY, WE HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO THE TAXPAYERS IN THIS COMMUNITY TO INFORM THEM WHERE THEIR MONEY IS BEING SPENT.

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S $38 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAXES FROM THIS PAST YEAR AND PREVIOUS YEARS UNACCOUNTED FOR.

OR AT LEAST WE ARE NOT BEING TOLD WHERE IT IS GOING.

MEANWHILE, OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES IN AUSTIN HAVE NEGLECTED TO ADDRESS SCHOOL FUNDING BY REFUSING TO RAISE THE BASIC ALLOTMENT, DESPITE A 15%

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SCHOOL DISTRICTS AROUND THE STATE, ESPECIALLY RECAPTURE DISTRICTS LIKE US, ARE STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET.

YET WE BLINDLY SEND A THIRD OF OUR PROPERTY TAXES TO THE STATE UNACCOUNTED FOR.

I PERSONALLY DO NOT FEEL COMPELLED TO MAKE THIS PAYMENT IN THE FUTURE UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE RECEIVE AN ANSWER TO WHERE OUR MONEY IS GOING, AND THE LEGISLATURE ADDRESSES THE FUNDING GAP AT ISDS AROUND THIS GREAT STATE.

I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

SO, I MEAN, I REALLY I LIKE THE IDEA OF I LIKE WHAT WE'VE DONE AND I LIKE THE THOUGHT OF WHERE WE COULD GO WITH THIS, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN HOW WE APPROACH THIS.

YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS TO ME.

IF WE WERE TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION.

I THINK WE'RE SAYING IN PLAIN ENGLISH THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY YOU, AND THAT COULD COME WITH SOME CONSEQUENCES, AND BECAUSE I THINK WHEN YOU READ THE LEGISLATION, WE'VE GOT FIVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF WHAT WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF PAYING, RECAPTURE.

STATE ALSO HAS OBLIGATIONS.

THE COMMISSIONER HAS OBLIGATIONS, BUT THE LEGISLATURE HASN'T ACTED.

SO WHAT THEN DO WE DO? I JUST THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, THEN WE HAVE TO BE READY TO GO ALL THE WAY.

IT CAN'T BE A VEILED THREAT.

SO I GUESS I WOULD JUST SAY, CAN YOU REMIND US OF WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS MONEY WHEN WE PAY RECAPTURE? WE'VE ASKED. WHERE DOES IT GO? WE DON'T KNOW. IT'S A BLACK HOLE.

WE DON'T KNOW. SO THE STATUTE SAYS IN THE TEXAS COMPTROLLER FOR YEARS HAS BEEN VIOLATING THIS LAW, TO NO CONSEQUENCE.

SO ARE WE GOING TO HOLD THE TEXAS COMPTROLLER RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS ACTIONS? WE'VE ASKED HIM TIME AFTER TIME AGAIN TO TELL US WHERE OUR RECAPTURE MONEY IS GOING.

HE IGNORES US AND REFUSES, AND BY STATUTE, HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE TAXPAYER OF THE STATE OF TEXAS TO TELL US WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING, AND GUESS WHAT? THE STATUTE SAYS IT HAS TO GO BACK TO EDUCATION.

IF HE CAN'T TELL US IF IT'S GOING BACK TO EDUCATION OR WHERE IT'S GOING, WHY ARE WE PAYING HIM? SIMPLE AS THAT.

LET'S HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE.

LET'S TAKE A STAND FOR SOMETHING THAT'S MEANINGFUL THAT OTHER DISTRICTS AROUND THE STATE ARE WILLING TO TAKE A STAND.

IN FACT, THERE ARE DISTRICTS AROUND THE STATE THAT ARE GOING TO GO BANKRUPT BECAUSE OUR LEGISLATIVE BODY HAS DONE NOTHING, NOTHING SINCE 2019 FOR THE FOR THE ISDS IN TEXAS, AND IF WE DON'T STAND UP AND SAY, LOOK, WE'VE HAD ENOUGH, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND WE'RE GOING TO STAND BY OUR ISDS AROUND THE STATE OF TEXAS AND HOLD THE STATE COMPTROLLER ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS INACTION, THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE IN TWO MORE YEARS, IN FOUR MORE YEARS, CRYING ABOUT THE SAME STUFF.

LOOK AT PLANO ISD. PLANO ISD, THEY PAY ABOUT THE SAME PERCENTAGE OF RECAPTURE.

THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR FOUR YEARS NOW, WAITING AND WAITING.

YOU'RE RIGHT, AND NOW THEY'VE GOT PROBLEMS. EXACTLY RIGHT. LOOK AT SPRING BRANCH.

YOU JUST PASSED THE RESOLUTION THAT TELLS THEIR SUPERINTENDENT TO NOT PAY THEIR 2023-2024 PAYMENT NEXT YEAR.

THEY'RE BANKRUPT.

THEY'RE $50 MILLION IN DEFICIT.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CLOSE CAMPUSES.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE DRASTIC MEASURES.

THE WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE A STATEMENT IS TO GET A SEAT AT THE TABLE FOR THESE RECAPTURE ISDS, TO TALK TO OUR COMPTROLLER AND WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE BODY TO SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

WE NEED TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT, AND GUESS WHAT? YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN AUSTIN AT A SPECIAL SESSION TALKING ABOUT SCHOOL FUNDING IN OCTOBER.

THAT'S THE TIME. LET'S DO IT THEN.

LET'S GO DOWN THERE AND LET'S TALK TO OUR GUYS AND TELL THEM THEY WE MUST HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE, AND IF WE HAVE 20 OR 30 ISDS THAT ARE GOING TO SIT NEXT TO US, THEY HAVE TO LISTEN TO US. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT WITH [INAUDIBLE] A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO TO ASK HIM ABOUT THESE VERY THINGS AND HE HE SAID THAT.

THEY DO NOT GET ANY RECEIPTS FROM ANY OF THE DISTRICTS THAT RECEIVE OUR RECAPTURE MONEY SO THAT THEY CANNOT HOLD ANYONE ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY.

THEY HAVE NO DOCUMENTATION OF WHERE OUR MONEY WENT.

RESPECTFULLY, THAT'S A COP OUT BECAUSE THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO WRITES THE CHECKS AND SENDS THEM TO THE DISTRICTS.

SO THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T GET RECEIPTS, YOU COULD TELL REPRESENTATIVE [INAUDIBLE] THAT THAT'S RUBBISH, AND HE KNOWS IT AND HE KNOWS BETTER, AND THAT'S A SHAMEFUL ANSWER THAT HE SAID. I WAS WITH OTHER STATE REPRESENTATIVES WHO WERE ACTUALLY VERY SYMPATHETIC.

I WAS IN A ROOM FULL OF OTHER DISTRICTS THAT WERE RECAPTURE HERE IN NORTH TEXAS, AND THESE REPRESENTATIVES, INCLUDING A STATE SENATOR, ALL SAID THEY AGREED WITH

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CAN I JUST THROW CAN I THROW SOME STATS OUT REAL QUICK? SO WHAT I READ IS THAT THE STATE HAS COLLECTED ALMOST 4 BILLION THIS YEAR IN RECAPTURE PAYMENTS.

IT IS LARGELY KNOWN THAT WEALTH EQUALIZATION COSTS ROUGHLY $2 BILLION.

SO NOT ONLY CAN THEY NOT TELL US WHERE THE $2 BILLION ARE GOING, BUT THEY ALSO CAN'T TELL US WHERE THE $2 BILLION THAT THEY OVER COLLECTED IS GOING. EITHER THAT $2 BILLION SHOULD BE PRORATED AND SENT BACK TO THE RECAPTURE DISTRICTS.

IF WEALTH EQUALIZATION ONLY COSTS $2 BILLION AND OUR RESOLUTION SAYS TELL US HOW MUCH WEALTH EQUALIZATION COSTS.

THEY CAN'T TELL US.

WHY CAN'T THEY TELL US? BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? IT'S NOT GOING TO EDUCATION.

PROVE IT. PROVE THAT IT'S GOING TO EDUCATION AND WE'LL DROP ALL THIS.

YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT PRESIDENT BRYAN HAS SAID.

I ECHO HIS PASSION IN BEING FRUSTRATED WITH THIS SYSTEM.

IT'S A BROKEN SYSTEM.

IT'S AWFULLY ADMINISTERED AND IT DOES NEED TO CHANGE, AND I'M ALL FOR PUTTING PRESSURE ON, YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATORS TO WHOEVER WE HAVE TO, BUT.

I ALSO JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE COULD BE DIRE CONSEQUENCES.

UNDER THE TEXAS EDUCATION CODE, THE COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATION HAS VAST POWER.

TEXAS LEGISLATURE HAS BASICALLY DELEGATED HIM ALMOST UNLIMITED AND UNAPPEALABLE POWER TO F OR INSTANCE, I JUST DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH, SO I'M BY NO MEANS AN EXPERT ON THIS TOPIC RIGHT NOW, BUT EDUCATION CODE 39.003 GIVES THE COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATION THE POWER TO BASICALLY CALL FOR A SPECIAL INVESTIGATION ON ANY TOPIC.

IT LISTS ABOUT 15 INDIVIDUAL TOPICS AND THEN THE LAST ONE SAYS, AND ANYTHING ELSE THE COMMISSIONER OTHERWISE DEEMS NECESSARY.

I DID A LITTLE BIT OF LOOKING IN THE CASE LAW.

HE'S USED THIS POWER IN THE PAST TO CALL FOR AN AUDIT.

YOU KNOW, HE APPOINTS THE AUDITOR, THE AUDITOR GOES IN AND THE AUDITOR GIVES A REPORT, HEY, SUCH AND SUCH ISD IS NOT IS NOT COMPLYING WITH ITS FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS IT'S MISMANAGING ITS FINANCIALS, WHATEVER THEY SAY, AND HE SAYS, OKAY, THAT'S GREAT.

NOW I'M GOING TO REPLACE YOUR ENTIRE BOARD.

SO I'M GLAD YOU BRING THAT UP BECAUSE I'M CURIOUS.

I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR TAKING A STAND I HATE THE FACT THAT WE GIVE A THIRD OF OUR BUDGET BACK TO THE STATE AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES, BUT I KNOW OTHER DISTRICTS ARE DOING OTHER DRAMATIC THINGS LIKE LAWSUITS, WHICH I GUESS IS A WAY TO TAKE A STAND RY TO MAKE CHANGE IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

I'M KIND OF CURIOUS.

I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM SOME EXPERTS OR SOME LAWYERS OR WHOEVER KNOWS WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE, WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE HOUSTON ISD, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO SPRING BRANCH ISD, I USED TO LIVE IN SPRING BRANCH ISD, BY THE WAY, BUT HOUSTON ISD JUST HAD THEIR NINE BOARD MEMBERS REPLACED BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T APPARENTLY FOLLOWING THE RULES OR THE, YOU KNOW, REGULATIONS, AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO CHANGE.

I JUST WONDER WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE AND WHAT THE RISKS ARE.

WELL, AND MR. LANNEN, HE USED THIS SPECIFIC PROVISION THAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT TO CALL FOR AN AUDIT, AND THEN BASED ON THE RESULTS OF THE AUDIT, HE USED EDUCATION CODE 39A.

TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE BOARD.

I DON'T THINK HE REPLACED THE SUPERINTENDENT, BUT HE HAS THE POWER TO DO THAT AS WELL AND PUT IN A BOARD OF MANAGERS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I ECHO THE FRUSTRATION.

I THIS THIS ISSUE IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER HAS BEEN LITIGATED TO THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT, I THINK SEVEN DIFFERENT TIMES.

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IT'S AN AWFUL SYSTEM.

IT'S TERRIBLE, BUT IT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM.

LEGISLATURE, GO FIX IT.

SO EVERY EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT AN ISD OR A TAXPAYER HAS CHALLENGED THIS, IT HAS IT HAS FAILED, BUT I JUST WOULD.

YOU HATE TO DO IS TO GIVE OUTSIDERS A CHANCE TO UNDO ALL OF THE PHENOMENAL WORK THIS BOARD HAS DONE AND THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF, YOU KNOW, WE SAID, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE NOT PAYING YOU.

NOW WHAT? NOW HE SAYS, OKAY, YOU DIDN'T PAY US.

WELL, THAT VIOLATES ALL THESE LAWS.

I FIND THAT CONSTITUTES FINANCIAL MISMANAGEMENT OF YOUR DISTRICT, AND I REPLACE YOU ALL.

YOU'RE ALL DISMISSED, AND I'M GOING TO BRING IN A WHOLE NEW BOARD.

THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE MONEY ANYWAY, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOSE LOCAL CONTROL OF OUR DISTRICT AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS AND I AGREE THEY'RE VIOLATING THE LAW, THE COMPTROLLER'S VIOLATING THE LAW, THE STATE'S VIOLATING THE LAW.

EVERY DIME THAT WE SEND IN RECAPTURE IS SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR SCHOOL, FOR EDUCATION.

IT'S NOT. IT JUST GOES INTO THEIR SLUSH FUND, BUT I DON'T THINK THE WAY TO REMEDY THAT IS TO REMEDY THEIR VIOLATION OF LAW IS WITH OUR VIOLATION OF LAW.

I THINK THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO IT.

THEY'RE INEFFICIENT AND THEY'VE PROVEN UNSUCCESSFUL, BUT YOU CAN YOU KNOW, YOU CAN FILE LAWSUITS, AND SEEK INJUNCTIONS, AND I KNOW SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE BANDED TOGETHER TO DO THAT IN THE PAST SO THEY CAN SHARE THE COST.

I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO DO THAT.

YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THE OTHER THING IS TO REPLACE LEGISLATURES.

WE ONLY HAVE ONE THAT WE CAN REPLACE HERE, BUT I JUST I DO, AND MUCH LESS THE MESSAGE THAT THIS YOU KNOW WEALTHY YOU KNOW CARROLL ISD VOTES TO WITHHOLD RECAPTURE FROM YOU KNOW LOW INCOME DISTRICTS.

SO I JUST AGAIN AS TRUSTEE SEXTON STARTED OFF WITH, WE HAVE TO APPROACH THIS ISSUE, I THINK, WITH A GREAT DEAL OF CAUTION AND MAYBE WEIGH YOU KNOW THE TRUE COSTS AGAINST THE BENEFITS OF MAKING SUCH A STATEMENT.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

IF SOMEONE CAN EXPLAIN THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

SO I WAS TOLD AT THAT SAME MEETING THAT WHAT WE SEND BACK IN RECAPTURE, IF WE DON'T SEND IT, THEY'RE GOING TO COLLECT IT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET IT, BUT HE SAID THAT IF WE LOWER RECAPTURE, YOU DON'T GET TO KEEP THAT EXTRA MONEY.

THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL DON'T UNDERSTAND, AND SO MAYBE SOMEONE CAN EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

HE WAS SAYING THAT WE DON'T GET THE SAVINGS BENEFIT OF GETTING TO KEEP THE MONEY THAT I GUESS THEY GIVE US FROM THE PROPERTY TAXES THAT IF THEY IF WE HAVE TO SEND IN LESS, WE DON'T GET TO KEEP THE EXTRA MONEY.

RIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S A BASIC ALLOTMENT THAT THERE'S A CAP PER STUDENT THAT WE GET AND WE COLLECT WAY OVER THAT CAP IN PROPERTY TAXES, AND SO WHATEVER THAT AMOUNT IS OVER, THAT CAP IS SENT BACK TO THE STATE.

THEY REDUCE THE COMPRESSION RATE BY $0.21.

SO THEREFORE, OUR RECAPTURE IS GOING TO GO FROM 38 MR. JOHNSON TO 18 ROUGHLY NEXT YEAR.

SO THAT'S STILL $18 MILLION OVER THE 61/60 AND BASIC ALLOTMENT THAT WERE THAT WERE CAPPED AT.

IF THEY WERE TO INCREASE THE BASIC ALLOTMENT BY 1000 BUCKS, THEN WE WOULD BE IN BUSINESS, BUT THEY'RE NOT WILLING APPARENTLY TO.

WELL, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR STATE REP AND I APPRECIATE YOU ACTUALLY MET WITH HIM RECENTLY, IT SEEMS LIKE EVEN IF WE CAN'T GET AN ANSWER TO WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING, WHY CAN OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES NOT GET AN ANSWER? I MEAN, THEY'RE IN A POSITION OF AUTHORITY WITH THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

IT SEEMS LIKE THEY WOULD BE DEMANDING ANSWERS ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

I WOULD SAY THIS, AND AGAIN, THE ONES I SPOKE TO WERE AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO OUR STATE REP BEFORE AND I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HE'S GIVEN WITH ME, BUT I REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN FULFILLED IN THE ANSWERS OR THE ACTIONS.

I'M BEING VERY HONEST AND RESPECTFUL, BUT THE OTHER THERE ARE OTHER STATE REPRESENTATIVES WHO ARE WILLING TO GO INTO THIS SPECIAL SESSION.

THEY TOLD US $4 BILLION WAS SET ASIDE.

DID YOU JUST SAY THIS RIGHT? OKAY. $1 BILLION, RIGHT? THIS IS A $2 BILLION PROBLEM TO MAKE ALL OF THE RECAPTURE DISTRICTS WHOLE.

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I DON'T HAVE TO SPEND THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS ALLOTTED FOR THIS SPECIAL SESSION FOR EDUCATION.

WE'RE JUST WE'RE NOT EVEN ASKING FOR ALL OF THEIR MONEY.

RIGHT? WE GAVE THEM WE WERE AS POLITE AS POSSIBLE.

WE HAD MEETINGS WITH EVERYBODY TO SAY, TAKE THE BASIC ALLOTMENT UP.

WE WENT WITH OUR STAFF.

WE TALKED ABOUT 15% INFLATION, THE COST OF EVERYTHING FROM FUEL TO ENERGY, EVERYTHING.

WE WERE AS POLITE AS POSSIBLY COULD BE, AND TO TRUSTEE SEXTON AND TRUSTEE DUDLEY, I WOULD JUST SAY THIS, JORDAN.

I WOULD SAY THIS.

I WANT A STRONG, STRONGLY WORDED PROPOSAL, DOCUMENT RESOLUTION.

I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE 30 OTHER.

WE KNOW THERE ARE OVER 200 RECAPTURE DISTRICTS.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WIPE OUT THE BOARDS OF 200 DISTRICTS.

I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT.

THEY CAN'T DO THAT.

RIGHT. THEY ARE TAKING AUTHORITY ON ON DISTRICTS LIKE HOUSTON, LIKE AUSTIN AND SELECTIVELY, BUT I THINK IF WE DON'T ACT AND AGAIN, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN A POLITE BOARD, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR OUR FAIR SHARE.

WE'RE NOT ASKING WE DON'T EVEN NEED ALL OF THAT $18 MILLION.

THE PROBLEM THAT I SEE IS THE POLITICIANS HAVE ALREADY OBLIGATED A CERTAIN POT OF THAT MONEY, AND IT WILL ONLY LAST A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.

YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT DIFFERENT PRIORITIES.

THEY'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT VOUCHERS AND IMPEACHMENTS AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

THEY HAVEN'T BEEN TALKING ABOUT FUNDING SCHOOLS AND THAT'S A PROBLEM.

THEY HAVE BENEFITED THE TAXPAYERS.

RIGHT, AND THEY HAVE LOWERED OUR RECAPTURE A LITTLE BIT FOR THE COMING YEARS, BUT STILL, THEY HAVEN'T FUNDED THE SCHOOLS.

SO I TOTALLY AGREE.

IT'S A HUGE ISSUE.

I JUST WONDER IF WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF THESE ACTIONS, AND I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S NOT A THERE'S PROBABLY 200 RECAPTURE DISTRICTS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HAVE PASSED A SIMILAR RESOLUTION.

I DID SEE, I THINK ONE ON TWITTER, SPRING BRANCH PASSED ONE AND KELLER'S PASSING ONE TONIGHT, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHERS THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT UP.

OKAY. I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, HAVE WE LOOKED AT OTHER OPTIONS? LIKE I THINK OPTION NUMBER THREE, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE THAT IS, BUT IT'S SOME KIND OF PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER DISTRICTS AND THERE'S SOME KIND OF THRESHOLD OF 10%, I THINK THAT.

MR. JOHNSON, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ANY OF THESE? DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

I HAVE NOT, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THOSE AND GET BACK TO THE BOARD IN THE NEXT MEETING IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

I MEAN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DOING THIS.

I JUST DO THINK IT IS A VERY SLIPPERY SLOPE, AND I AGREE.

I DON'T THINK THAT EVERYONE I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO REPLACE HOWEVER MANY BOARDS DO THIS, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE THEIR ONLY THEY WOULDN'T HAVE MUCH OF A CASE.

ALL WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO IS DO THEIR JOB.

GIVE US AN AUDIT OF WHERE THE MONEY GOES.

RIGHT. AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN RESPECTFUL.

WE'VE HAD I'M KIND OF DONE WITH HAVING THE RESPECTFUL CONVERSATIONS, AND I WANT TO HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT JOINS WITH DOZENS OF OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS WHO ARE JUST ASKING FOR THE SAME THING.

YEAH, I AGREE. I JUST THINK [INAUDIBLE] THE OPTION WHEN WE'RE TOLD TO RAISE TAXES, THAT'S WHAT THEY TELL US, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT THEY TELL US THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE CAN'T WE CAN'T GO FIGHT FOR YOU, CARROLL, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE LOWEST TAX RATE OF ANY ISD IN THE STATE.

SO YOU NEED TO GO OUT AND TELL YOUR CITIZENS TO PAY MORE TAXES.

RIGHT? THAT'S GREAT ADVICE FROM OUR REPRESENTATIVES, ISN'T IT? YEAH. HEY, YOU, CARROLL.

PAY MORE TAXES AND PAY US MORE.

RECAPTURE. THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT, RIGHT? THAT'S A PROBLEM. YEAH.

YOU'VE GOT OTHER DISTRICTS THAT HAVE MAGNIFICENT COLLEGIATE TYPE FACILITIES.

THEY PAY A LOWER RATE THAN WE DO AND THEY RECEIVE RECAPTURE.

I DON'T GET IT. I AGREE.

THE SYSTEM IS AWFUL, IT'S BROKEN, AND I DON'T THINK OUR LEGISLATORS ARE DOING THEIR JOB.

I DON'T THINK THE STATE'S DOING ITS JOB.

I HAVE A PHILOSOPHICAL PROBLEM WITH PASSING A RESOLUTION THAT BASICALLY SAYS WE'RE GOING TO VIOLATE THE LAW.

[INAUDIBLE] WE HAD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE HAD MASKS, MASK MANDATES IN SCHOOL.

I MEAN, I DIDN'T AGREE WITH THOSE, BUT WHEN I SENT MY KIDS TO SCHOOL, I PUT THEM IN MASKS BECAUSE THAT WAS THE RULE, AND I COULD HAVE I COULD HAVE PULLED THEM OUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE RULE.

I WORE MASKS ON PLANES BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO.

I THOUGHT IT WAS SILLY THAT IT WAS RIDICULOUS, BUT I DID IT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE LAW.

RIGHT, AND NOW WHAT WE'VE DONE TO REMEDY THAT IS, IS WE'VE GOTTEN THE COMMUNITY TO ELECT LEADERS

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YOU KNOW, OUR COUNTY JUDGE HAS JUST SAID HE'LL NEVER HE'LL NEVER IMPLEMENT A MASK MANDATE AGAIN.

SO, I MEAN, WE WENT ABOUT THAT THE RIGHT WAY AND WE AND WE GOT A FAVORABLE RESULT.

NOW, LOOK, I KNOW IT'S INEFFICIENT TO GO AND FILE A LAWSUIT THAT'S INEFFICIENT.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME, AND WE AND LOOK, THE PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF SUCCESS IS NOT THERE.

YOU KNOW, REELECTING OFFICIALS, GETTING OFFICIALS, OTHER OFFICIALS ELECTED TO CHANGE THE LAW, TO GO AND DO THEIR JOB.

IT'S INEFFICIENT.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME.

IT MAY NOT BE SUCCESSFUL, BUT I JUST.

I JUST DON'T THINK THAT PASSING A RESOLUTION THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO VIOLATE THE LAW IS NUMBER ONE, IS GOING TO GET US ANYWHERE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO CAVE JUST BECAUSE WE PASS A RESOLUTION SAYS WE'RE NOT SENDING YOU YOUR MONEY, AND THEN IF WE ACTUALLY GET AROUND TO ACTUALLY NOT SENDING THE MONEY, THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE MONEY, AND THERE MAY BE OTHER OTHER RAMIFICATIONS ON TOP OF THAT.

I APPRECIATE, TRUSTEE JORDAN, YOUR POSITION.

I THINK YOU'VE MADE A SOLID POINT AND MADE IT A COUPLE OF TIMES.

SO REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE TO OFFER.

IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS? I WOULD I WOULD JUST SAY I PUT TRUST INTO OUR BOARD PRESIDENT.

A RESOLUTION WOULDN'T BE SAYING WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO VIOLATE THE LAW.

WE'VE ALREADY MADE OUR PAYMENT RECENTLY FOR THIS YEAR.

SO FOR LAST YEAR, THE NEXT PAYMENT.

MR. JOHNSON, IS NOT DUE TILL WHEN RECAPTURE.

A FULL YEAR FROM NOW.

SO WHAT I THINK IS YOU GET AS MANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS WHO ARE AGAIN, THERE'S OVER 200 THAT ARE IN OUR POSITION THAT SEND IN.

WE HAVE LOBBYING POWER.

WE'RE GIVING THE STATE LEGISLATURE, THE COMPTROLLER.

WE'RE GIVING THEM A YEAR TO JUST COME BACK WITH AN AUDIT.

TELL US WHERE OUR $18 MILLION IS GOING.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

I DON'T WANT TO VIOLATE ANY LAW.

I JUST WANT THEM TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO OUR TAXPAYERS.

IT'S TRULY TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION IS WHAT'S HAPPENING.

FOR CLARIFICATION, IF WE PASS THIS RESOLUTION, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE FURTHER BOARD ACTION IN ORDER TO PAY THE RECAPTURE, CORRECT? OR NOT PAY.

OR NOT PAY. WE HAVE A FULL YEAR.

WE VOTE ON IT ANNUALLY WE VOTE.

TRUSTEE JORDAN, WE HAVE A FULL YEAR, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT GIVES OUR LEGISLATURES, BUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS LET'S PASS A RESOLUTION NOW THAT SAYS IF YOU DON'T DO THIS BY ONE YEAR FROM NOW, WE'RE NOT PAYING YOU.

I THINK THE WORDING COULD BE QUITE ELOQUENT.

[INAUDIBLE] TRUSTEE YEAGER, A RESPECTED, VERY RESPECTFUL AND POLITE BOARD.

I'M NOT PUTTING TOO MUCH.

YOU JUST SAID YOU WEREN'T BEING POLITE ANYMORE.

IS THE GOAL TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE THEY GO INTO SPECIAL SESSION? I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE A VERY STRONG STATEMENT TO OUR LEGISLATORS THAT ARE GOING INTO SPECIAL SESSION TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SCHOOL FUNDING IN OCTOBER, AND I THINK A LOT OF THESE RECAPTURE ISDS AROUND THE STATE ARE DOING OR HAVING THESE SAME DISCUSSIONS FOR THAT VERY PURPOSE.

SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT AND THAT IS VERY RELEVANT.

THE SECOND SO THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS WOULD WE HAVE TO CALL A NEW ELECTION FOR THE OPTION OF.

ATTENDANCE CREDITS.

SO IF WE PASS THIS RESOLUTION, DOES THAT NOW OPEN US UP TO HOLD ANOTHER ELECTION TO MAKE THAT DECISION? BECAUSE THAT IS A COMMUNITY DECISION, AS I READ IT.

I COULDN'T SAY FOR CERTAINTY.

I TEND TO AGREE WITH PRESIDENT BRYAN.

I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WOULD.

WE VOTE YES OR NO EVERY YEAR ON ATTENDANCE CREDITS.

SO IF WE VOTED NO, WE'RE NOT GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION ORIGINALLY THAT WAS DRIVEN BY AN ELECTION.

NOT DRIVEN BY ELECTION. WE HAVE TO DO THAT EACH YEAR.

IT WAS DONE IN 2001.

IN 2001, THERE WAS AN ELECTION FOR THIS OPTION TO PAY THE RECAPTURE BACK IN THE MANNER THAT WE DO.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, BUT EVEN THIS RESOLUTION, IF WE DON'T GET MADE WHOLE, THE WHOLE 18 MILLION, EVEN IF WE GOT 50%, I MEAN, THIS IS A NEGOTIATION, 50%, YOU KNOW, $9 MILLION BACK INTO OUR ISD.

I MEAN, THAT YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF FUNDS WHERE THEY DID GO A LONG WAY.

SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THIS EFFORT WOULD BE A NOBLE ONE.

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SO WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP THEN? SO TONIGHT WAS JUST FOR INFORMATION.

IT WAS JUST FOR DISCUSSION.

THERE'S NO ACTION TONIGHT.

WE JUST WANTED TO GET THE THOUGHTS OF THE TRUSTEES, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ALL GAVE US YOUR THOUGHTS AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

THAT'S AWESOME, AND THEN WE JUST DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING, TAKE SOME KIND OF ACTION IN THE FUTURE.

IF IT'S PASSING A RESOLUTION, THEN IT'S PASSING A RESOLUTION.

IF IT'S HAVING A STRONG WORDED LETTER TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES, THAT'S WHAT IF IT'S DO NOTHING, IT'S DO NOTHING.

I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION TONIGHT.

THIS WAS JUST TO TALK ABOUT IT AND TO GET EVERYBODY'S FEELINGS AND WHAT WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE, AND THAT'S ALL GOOD.

SOUNDS GREAT. I'M OF THE OPINION THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, LET'S GO ALL THE WAY.

LET'S DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

YEAH, AND GO BACK DOWN THERE AND YOU GUYS GO VISIT KNOWING, KNOWING THAT THERE IS THIS OCTOBER SPECIAL SESSION THAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD IT'S ABOUT EDUCATION. WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE'S $4 BILLION.

I THINK THE TIMING TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF RESOLUTION IS SOON, AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD, AND WE MEET ONE WEEK FROM TODAY AND WE CAN PUT FORTH A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT AGAIN AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO TAKE ACTION AS A BOARD WE DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, SO BE IT.

I THINK WE TALK ABOUT IT UNTIL IT GETS RESOLVED.

WELL, IN THIS RESOLUTION BROUGHT FORTH NOTHING, SO, AND THIS WAS REALLY IMPOLITE.

YEAH. BROUGHT FORTH NOTHING.

SO. EXACTLY.

SO UNTIL IT HAS TEETH, IT'S GOING TO USE MORE, UNTIL IT HAS SOMETHING THEY'RE GOING TO IGNORE.

SO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THEY NEED TO GET TO WORK.

YEAH THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOB.

TOTALLY AGREE. OKAY ARE WE DONE WITH THIS CONVERSATION? WE NEED TO. BEFORE WE ADJOURN, WE NEED TO ADJOURN BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO FINISH OUR BUSINESS FROM BEFORE IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071, 551.072, 551.074 AND 551.0821 AT 7:51 P.M..

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER AT 8:12 P.M.

WITH THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ANY MATTERS ADDRESSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING SUPERINTENDENT'S CONTRACT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? YES I MOVE TO APPROVE REVISIONS TO THE CONTRACT AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION, AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 0.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I MOVE TO ADJOURN. SECOND.

MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.

MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 0.

WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 8:13 P.M..

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.